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Goddess spirituality

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Historically there have been Goddess religions that have welcome transgendered persons, as new research is discovering.

Goddesses such as Isis, Cybele, and others.

Some resources:

Please use google to find the resources.

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StephanieVikingGirl

Hi Debutante,

So very true, and some of us have been leading the way back to worshipping those Goddesses. The Deity that I worship most closely nowadays is Freyja. In Old Norse (and modern Icelandic), I would describe myself as a Seidberendr (male to female transgender Norse shaman), and also a Freyjas Gydja (Priestess/Minister of Freyja). If and when I get SRS, I will become a Seidkona (female Norse shaman). Most if not all of the old religions recognised, and/or valued trans folk. I have posted some info in the Pagan spirituality section on this, check it out, most of what I post comes from a Norse-O-Centric position though. Lots of info is available, feel free to pm me, I love chatting about the topic. :)

hugs,

Stephanie

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Guest Debutante

So good to met you Stephanie!

I'll have to read up on Freya and Norse paganism... I had read just a bit.

I am seeking a goddess compatible to me. Right now

I am in the Fellowship of Isis. I have studied Cybele and the ancient

Middle Eastern priestesses and TG involvement.

I am of Lithuanian ethnic background, as is my wife, who

is steeped in women's spirituality.

I am a CDer, not TG.

blessings...........

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StephanieVikingGirl

Hi Debutante,

Have you heard of Romuva? It is the ancient indigenous religion of Lithuanians. My friend Prudence Priest is closely involved with them, and has property over there in the Baltic. I am not as familiar with their Goddesses, but all the European religions are ultimately related, and many Deities are even given names which are cognate with their equivalent in one of the other faiths. Of course I am quite familiar with Isis, and all the other Goddesses to some extent since my B.A. was in Ancient and Medieval History, and I studied comparative religion as part of my clergy training (I was ordained by Kveldulf Gundarsson in 1995). Since you are in the Fellowship of Isis, do you know of Isis Oasis? They have an active Temple of Isis, and I have been to their ceremonies, and rituals. It is located in Geyserville, California, and in addition to the Temple, they also have a nice animal sanctuary. Groovy stuff!

hugs,

Stephanie

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Guest Debutante

I have heard of Romuva and know Romuva people... have their books. They don't have any TG spirituality

in their beliefs, and Lithuanians can be very homophobic, never mind

transphobic. But I am not out except to one person...

Very nice studies you how done! How accomplished...

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StephanieVikingGirl

Wow, I didn't know that Lithuanians were primarily homo/trans phobic, that is disappointing. The only person I know who is active with Romuva is my old friend Prudence Priest, and she is very trans friendly. I don't know all that much about Romuva other than what Prudence has said in lectures at Pantheacon down in San Jose, and at WicCan Fest outside of Toronto. Their faith sounds rather similar to Heathenry, so I am surprised that they don't have similar beliefs regarding transgender spirituality. That is too bad, and quite disappointing. I will have to remember to ask Prudence about that. I do like learning things, even when things are not as I would prefer. I think it is better to know.

Fortunately, we universalist Heathens are very LGBT friendly! :) I am completely "out of the trans closet" nowadays, and live full time now as Stephanie. Of course it is kinda different for us transsexuals. I think it may be easier for us, since we have hormones helping. By that I mean that it isn't really easy for me to go back to being Gary since it would require binding my boobs. Since I won't do that, I kinda am forced into presenting as myself. I now have B cups! :) Hail to the Goddesses! :)

hugs,

Stephanie

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I speak of Lithuanians generally being phobic............. not in pagan religions per se.

Don't quote me on that. But most of Lithuanian society -- in Lithuania -- can be

very homo/trans phobic. It is different in the U.S. of course.

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StephanieVikingGirl

Thanks for letting me know. I haven't been to Lithuania, the closest that I have come is Denmark, and Germany. I didn't fully "come out" until last year, so I don't really know personally how homo/trans phobic any place is for sure except the Washington D.C. area (not safe for trans, but I knew some trans folk when I lived there a few years ago), and North Bay California (which is very accepting, and it is where I live now). I do trust the knowledge of folks in the playground though, and I now have developed a mental idea of how trans friendly or not many places seem to be. I will add your info into my mental database, thanks. How are things in Connecticut? Groovy thread. :)

Hail the Goddesses!,

Stephanie

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