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lol you can do that if you want, just gotta get a twitter. She is really active on Twitter which is why it kinda surprises me she doesn't have a Facebook lol

I have an account lost somewhere... :rolleyes: haha xD

She should make a FB BAH!!!

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We have begun a knightly quest where once was a pool party and stand in fearful need of warriors should any care to quest against dragons in the company of fae and nymph

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We have begun a knightly quest where once was a pool party and stand in fearful need of warriors should any care to quest against dragons in the company of fae and nymph

The last time I wore an armor (game reference) I ended up killin a man outside the law (though justifiably) and going from a noble guard to a mytholized fugitive. lol Whats wrong with me just living in a castle?

*considers.

Some of the younger fellows though, who's swords have not tasted blood may be interested tho.

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rofl- well at least we know what you do with your freetime :lol:

Erm... did I imply something I was not supposed to/something that's not what I meant...? lmao

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Bleh =/ How's everyone doing? Better than me I hopes!!!

not bad. spoke to my endo this morning and he says he wants me to see a reproductive endocrinologist (way specific huh?) who can discuss my "options" with me before going on T. I don't plan on doing egg freezing or anything like that (I like to tell myself I don't even have those <_<) and the only way I can see having a biological child is fathering one (told my GT this) but my endo spoke to my GT and told her there's a reproductive endo at my school's hospital that he wants her to help me get in touch with. Once I do that I think I'll have T... hopefully by the end of August. That's if he doesn't make me go on Depo or Lupron first...

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not bad. spoke to my endo this morning and he says he wants me to see a reproductive endocrinologist (way specific huh?) who can discuss my "options" with me before going on T. I don't plan on doing egg freezing or anything like that (I like to tell myself I don't even have those <_<) and the only way I can see having a biological child is fathering one (told my GT this) but my endo spoke to my GT and told her there's a reproductive endo at my school's hospital that he wants her to help me get in touch with. Once I do that I think I'll have T... hopefully by the end of August. That's if he doesn't make me go on Depo or Lupron first...

He keeps throwing you around. Jeez <_< I hope he doesn't make you go on depo or lupron first. Just hang in there buddy!!!!

Did you tell him you don't want to have kids?

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not bad. spoke to my endo this morning and he says he wants me to see a reproductive endocrinologist (way specific huh?) who can discuss my "options" with me before going on T. I don't plan on doing egg freezing or anything like that (I like to tell myself I don't even have those <_<) and the only way I can see having a biological child is fathering one (told my GT this) but my endo spoke to my GT and told her there's a reproductive endo at my school's hospital that he wants her to help me get in touch with. Once I do that I think I'll have T... hopefully by the end of August. That's if he doesn't make me go on Depo or Lupron first...

He's just making sure that he's covering all the options with you, so that he's sure you know exactly what you're getting into. It's part of how he's being thorough. Also, there's a reason for going on Depo or Lupron first. He's not jerking you around.

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He's just making sure that he's covering all the options with you, so that he's sure you know exactly what you're getting into. It's part of how he's being thorough. Also, there's a reason for going on Depo or Lupron first. He's not jerking you around.

Just co-signing Pól's bit. Cuz you might know you never want children, and I might believe you never want children, but all they see is "20"-a young age where potentially this person may want to continue their family's line. And once its done (and this goes for surgery as well as taking T) you can't "undo" it. Never. Ever. Never, ever ever. "Some" potential affect will have occured.

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He's just making sure that he's covering all the options with you, so that he's sure you know exactly what you're getting into. It's part of how he's being thorough. Also, there's a reason for going on Depo or Lupron first. He's not jerking you around.

I know. But I figure if most people go straight to T then it's not like that's a poor choice to make. According to my gender therapist out here, when she spoke to him he said he thinks I'm ready to start on a low dose of T, and when I spoke to him he said he didn't realize that I'd been seeing my gender therapist in the city for like 6 months. So, sounds like some things need clearing up.... but in any case I am seeing him in like 3 weeks.

Just co-signing Pól's bit. Cuz you might know you never want children, and I might believe you never want children, but all they see is "20"-a young age where potentially this person may want to continue their family's line. And once its done (and this goes for surgery as well as taking T) you can't "undo" it. Never. Ever. Never, ever ever. "Some" potential affect will have occured.

I know. I am being optimistic and hoping there will be a way I can father a child one day. even though I don't know if I even ever want kids. lol

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I know. I am being optimistic and hoping there will be a way I can father a child one day. even though I don't know if I even ever want kids. lol

Yeah, from 12 to 30 I didn't want ANY -no circumstances. Then, cuz of the girl I was with , I wanted one (preferably a son, but I acknowledge my flaws and its influenced by us already raising 2 daughters) but only if she could give birth to it. After that, the kid thing waned again. Now? (shrugs) I'm fine without it, but if medical science created a way to father one I might indulge. Not guaranteed. But still not "absolutely not"

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Yeah, from 12 to 30 I didn't want ANY -no circumstances. Then, cuz of the girl I was with , I wanted one (preferably a son, but I acknowledge my flaws and its influenced by us already raising 2 daughters) but only if she could give birth to it. After that, the kid thing waned again. Now? (shrugs) I'm fine without it, but if medical science created a way to father one I might indulge. Not guaranteed. But still not "absolutely not"

Would be nice wouldn't it? And most guys would think we're lucky we don't have to worry about unplanned pregnancies :P we always want what we can't have.... or maybe we CAN have it, just not yet. lol

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Yeah, from 12 to 30 I didn't want ANY -no circumstances.

This pretty much sums up my view at the moment. Not saying I'll always feel that way, but I think so.

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This pretty much sums up my view at the moment. Not saying I'll always feel that way, but I think so.

When I did want one, it wasn't really about the kid. Not directly. It was about the girl. I wanted to make something, someone, with HER in it. For HER to carry part of me. To place part of me in her. Almost like I wanted to give her part of me. Hard to explain. But very much about fathering and the woman.
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I don't want children. Having said that...I do sometimes find myself thinking about myself with a woman as a bio man and her getting pregnant and we start a family.....Of course it's all perfect too. Like I'm the perfect father and she's the perfect woman and the baby is easy to look after. :P But in real life? I don't think I'd cope with a child. Not if I had to cope with it all day and all night. No way. :P Not that I can even cope with them for an hour.... :P

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I don't want children. Having said that...I do sometimes find myself thinking about myself with a woman as a bio man and her getting pregnant and we start a family.....Of course it's all perfect too. Like I'm the perfect father and she's the perfect woman and the baby is easy to look after. :P But in real life? I don't think I'd cope with a child. Not if I had to cope with it all day and all night. No way. :P Not that I can even cope with them for an hour.... :P

lol I kinda do that too. Think of myself in like the perfect house in the suburbs with the wife and the kids and the steady job and all that good stuff. Then, every time I see a little kid being a total pain in the arse, I'm like "woah, I am never gonna have kids." lol. the other thing though is I think a lot of us, being trans, want to experience life vicariously through a kid of our gender, like for instance I would wanna experience being a dad living vicariously through my son, since I never had that male childhood. And then in a way I can experience things the way I should have.

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I don't want children. Having said that...I do sometimes find myself thinking about myself with a woman as a bio man and her getting pregnant and we start a family.....Of course it's all perfect too. Like I'm the perfect father and she's the perfect woman and the baby is easy to look after. :P But in real life? I don't think I'd cope with a child. Not if I had to cope with it all day and all night. No way. :P Not that I can even cope with them for an hour.... :P

I think its normal for guys who just want to be the "standard" image of a guy to harbor those mental pictures from time to time. It matches the type of guy you're aimin for after all. lol I'm like you though, terrible with being able to "cope" with small children. ESPECIALLY babies. I won't hold one. Been that way since I was in highschool; you had it you hold it. And the crying..........(drags nails against chalk board) It even messes with me to hear "fake" crying in games. When I got with the woman who had the girls, the youngest was still 4. It was VERY hard for me to want to deal with what is part of a 4 year old; and I mean "simple" stuff like how they sound when they are still trying to express themselves. The reaction it caused in me was often ugly anger. It took time. A LOT of time. What changed it was the point where there was a personal emotion developed for THOSE kids. (still can't say kids in general)

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I can't cope with anything they do. I'm very awkward around my cousin. lol Always have been. Some of that is because of gender issues but for the most part it's because I just don't know how to react to kids. i hate they way they wanna play. LOL! Like when they come up to you with fake pizza and make you pretend to eat it....... :P

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I'm the odd one out, aren't I? I love kids. Were it not for the fact that I'd probably experience a hellofalot of prejudice just by being a dude, if the trans thing is figured out I wouldn't be surprised if I ended up facing double--if not triple or even more--of it, I'd go into childcare/early education. That was my original plan for the longest time and I'm frankly lost 'cause I don't know what I should do now. But childcare doesn't look good for me. :/

When I did want one, it wasn't really about the kid. Not directly. It was about the girl. I wanted to make something, someone, with HER in it. For HER to carry part of me. To place part of me in her. Almost like I wanted to give her part of me. Hard to explain. But very much about fathering and the woman.

See, what's weird is that what you said there was almost the same logic I have for putting my duderus to use, which is almost the exact opposite result you would've gone for. Haha.

Before I met my fiancee, and even for a little while before she told me she wanted to transition, I hadn't really, fully understood just how agonizingly powerful the urge to have bio-kids can be. And then when I realized the odds were starting to stack up against me, I started freaking out. >_< So I'm pestering her about banking before she starts hormones and I'm probably stuck waiting anywhere from 1-15 years to start T depending on when we have kids and how many we want to have. It stresses me out more than I thought it would. I can fake the facial hair for the time being but it's just...bleh. It's frustrating. If I wasn't so afraid of screwing up my reproductive system I'd probably be on T by now.

Which reminds me...do any of you guys know if estrogen blockers cause fertility issues? I've googled it numerous times and haven't really found anything; I know they've been used to boost fertility sometimes but I don't want to risk damaging anything. I'm just sick and tired of that...cycle...thingy. It'll be useful later but right now it's a waste of time, and when I get those mood swings I get furious with myself. (As you can imagine, that's rather "helpful." XD)

If E blockers aren't what I'm looking for I'll just get a doctor to put me on BC with a more androgenic balance since it can at least help with the mood swings. -_-

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Which reminds me...do any of you guys know if estrogen blockers cause fertility issues? I've googled it numerous times and haven't really found anything; I know they've been used to boost fertility sometimes but I don't want to risk damaging anything. I'm just sick and tired of that...cycle...thingy. It'll be useful later but right now it's a waste of time, and when I get those mood swings I get furious with myself. (As you can imagine, that's rather "helpful." XD)

If E blockers aren't what I'm looking for I'll just get a doctor to put me on BC with a more androgenic balance since it can at least help with the mood swings. -_-

That is definitely a question best put to an professional endocrinologist, or at least an MD or RN. I think if I'd been remotely interested in that, my endo would have mentioned it, but since I wasn't, it never came up. I imagine it would depend on the kind of blocker that you're using, but I have no idea.

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See, what's weird is that what you said there was almost the same logic I have for putting my duderus to use, which is almost the exact opposite result you would've gone for. Haha.

Where you and me splinter off though is it isn't enough for me to "just" have had something with her. It was necessary that she do the ovulating, the conceiving, and the bearing . Those things.......you don't even want me to talk about those things lol. Suffice to say, it would not be me. Very first things I wanted em to chop off of me were those things . I don't want what they mean, what they represent, do , or how they function. I would rather not be capable of ANY reproduction than to have to reproduce the way "that other sex" does. To cause it though (and this is where my chauvanism proves it exist), is hype.

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Where you and me splinter off though is it isn't enough for me to "just" have had something with her. It was necessary that she do the ovulating, the conceiving, and the bearing . Those things.......you don't even want me to talk about those things lol. Suffice to say, it would not be me. Very first things I wanted em to chop off of me were those things . I don't want what they mean, what they represent, do , or how they function. I would rather not be capable of ANY reproduction than to have to reproduce the way "that other sex" does. To cause it though (and this is where my chauvanism proves it exist), is hype.

lol you sound like me.

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Where you and me splinter off though is it isn't enough for me to "just" have had something with her. It was necessary that she do the ovulating, the conceiving, and the bearing . Those things.......you don't even want me to talk about those things lol. Suffice to say, it would not be me. Very first things I wanted em to chop off of me were those things . I don't want what they mean, what they represent, do , or how they function. I would rather not be capable of ANY reproduction than to have to reproduce the way "that other sex" does. To cause it though (and this is where my chauvanism proves it exist), is hype.

Exactly how I feel.

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