Tonight

[Guest Donna Jean]

Dang

Later I guess... Guys are scum! OFTEN A BOYFRIEND WILL BE A LITTLE THOUGHTLESS.

Lizzy

LOL...yeah, I guess.....

But, I do know how you feel....

I get anxious waiting for a call or a note from someone that I feel deeply about and I start to imagine every awful senario that I can....mostly why they're being thoughtless or mean to me....

Only to find out later that they were abducted by aliens and couldn't get to a phone...

Instantly everything is better!

Huggs

Donna Jean

[Guest NatalieRene]

Girl, have you ever seen a hockey puck up close?

Carolyn Marie

No why? So don't make him a meal? I don't know I thought it sounded like a good idea to offer to make him a good meal.

Natalie,

As to why he did what he did, honestly I have no idea but I don't think like guys think. Now I have blown off friends to stay by myself in my room, but that's a whole nother issue. I never once didn't meet my future wife when we were dating because I connected to her almost instantly emotionally and was imagining my future with her forever very early on. OMG, I would never think of not showing up when I said I would and I would be crushed if she did it to me. We were both very considerate of each other feelings all the time to the point where if either of us were just running 5 mins late we'd let the other one know cause even that can mess with your head.

I have been around guys long enough and listened to their conversations and maybe he just was having a really good time with his brother, or maybe there was drinking involved, or maybe his brother was giving him pressure for wanting to leave and he had to prove he was a man by staying. It doesn't mean he doesn't care about you...he did call. It just means guys are different and not always in good ways and not always in bad ways. Just different.

But now on my short time on estro I have noticed a sort of very low level paranoia almost. I had a long discussion with my cousin texting back and forth which ended rather quickly a week or so back and when I woke up in the morning I just keep getting this feeling that she was mad at me and I couldn't shake it. Like I was in grade school or something? And then I texted her and talked to her and she though I was mad at her. And we kinda laughed about the whole thing. But I think that whole dynamic is also at play with why after a first date guys go on living their lives and women stare at a phone for days after thinking out every different possible scenario.

So all I can tell you is try not to dwell on this (good luck ) and hopefully this idio guy calls soon and gives you a better explanation. Especially to happen last night when you have these visions in your head of this perfect evening and you're going to have this important relationship conversation about being exclusive. OMG, I'm sorry it went this way

Kim

hmm so his brother may have pressured him to stick around and referred to me as some sort of ball and chain or that he's whipped? Well darn, I don't know how to handle that.

LOL...yeah, I guess.....

But, I do know how you feel....

I get anxious waiting for a call or a note from someone that I feel deeply about and I start to imagine every awful senario that I can....mostly why they're being thoughtless or mean to me....

Only to find out later that they were abducted by aliens and couldn't get to a phone...

Instantly everything is better!

Huggs

Donna Jean

OMG I've had my phone by me all day waiting for a phone call or text message. Although I have next to no signal where I'm at so I've been popping in and out of my office all day checking for messages. So far nothing and I'm starting to worry.

[Guest Elizabeth K]

So I should offer to make him a really good dinner?

NONONO

Make him take you out!

Lizzy

oh the phone?

If you watch it- it won't ring... kinda like waiting for water to boil or your nails to dry... and don't dwell on it too much - you will get sick with worry... this is why you and I talked about getting and keeping his respect. HE needs to do better with you. Don't make it easy on him.

And Natie? Hard as this is to say, I will say it. If it doesn't work out, it's good to get out from under this type of treatment early. You need a knight in shining armor, not a pud in a tin can. Go for someone who respects and loves you.

Remember, guys blow it all the time. They are usually pretty much clueless... a pity if you think about it! See what happens... all you can do.

[Guest KimberlyF]

OMG Natalie I knew you were gonna do it and I kinda hoped you wouldn't step away from the phone! If he calls you have voicemail, right? If he texts and you answer 1/2 hour or more later it's not a terrible thing. In fact if you do it too fast he might get this enabling vib. Maybe let him think you're stewing a bit

He MAY really care about you. I have no idea. They are so different to me. I walk out of the room and sit by myself at work all the time. He could REALLY like you. What I'm pretty confident he's not doing today is checking his phone all day wondering if he should call or text you.

As for the brother you do nothing. If it's meant to be and that was the issue, it fixes itself. At some point in the near future, He decides he'd rather be with you than watching a game with his brother. If he doesn't get to that point on his own, why would you want him?

Kim

[Guest NatalieRene]

Sorry about kind of just dropping off the map. I've been so busy with things including seeing Greg a bunch over the past week.

He got back from his trip up in PA and called me up and invited me over to his place again. It turns out most of the trip was very unpleasant for him. They had to move his grand father into a nursing home and he spent the majority of one of the days packing up his grand fathers things into a chest to take to the nursing home while his other family members where picking out the things they wanted to keep for themselves. I slept over again and we lay in his bed talking about that and what our plans where for thanksgiving. I've got plans to go up to my grand parents for thanksgiving and he is going up to his family but he wants to do a video skype call during the trip sometime to keep in touch over the holidays.

We saw the new Harry Potter last night and today he took me out to the place where he is considering buying a new construction house. We where looking at the model house which is the same model but doesn't have all the upgrades in it but it was amazing just the same. I am very impressed with the house he wants but I don't know what he is going to do with a 4 bedroom house on his own. But it was so cool to be able to be taken over to it and get an idea. It might seem strange to be fantasizing about it but I find myself wondering if things work out would I marry him and would we adopt some children. I know it's way too fast to be thinking about these things but I just find myself really liking him.