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Holiday Stress, One Of My Favorite Drinking Times


Michelle 2010

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Well, it sure was for me! That Norman Rockwell world never existed for me and it was most painfully apparent at the holidays. I can't figure out Chat Rooms so I haven't been to the AA one here. My gender issues were always deeply buried at that time of year but I imagine for some here that may not be so. The biggest gender issue was kids home from school meant I had to curtail the occasional dressing up. That was the least of it though. Simply trying to live up to the idealized image of the perfect Christmas depressed me.

Maybe we should share some stories from the past or as they unfold this year instead of drinking over them. I have never started a thread like this before so don't know if it'll fly but it might help someone stay sober by trying it. I drank for over 30 years at the holidays and was scared of the first sober one. Didn't go to parties other than family necessities. Can anyone relate?

I know a couple of people who have sobriety dates between Thanksgiving and New Year. I figure it took alot of pain or embarrassment to stop at that time.

Who knows, it may be better to vent on a forum than fall from Grace by relapsing. Hiding bottles, lying about how much etc, Glad I don't do that any more ;) BTW, the most important tip I got was to always drive myself to events, never get stuck at a party with no way out!

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Michelle

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Hi Michelle,

I attended a couple of New Year's eve parties way in the past I would just as soon forget. Once a person can get to the point that they can successfully avoid alcohol, they are empowered.

Are you having trouble logging into Chat?

Huggs,

Opal

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Hi Michelle,

I attended a couple of New Year's eve parties way in the past I would just as soon forget. Once a person can get to the point that they can successfully avoid alcohol, they are empowered.

Are you having trouble logging into Chat?

Huggs,

Opal

No, I think I needed someone to hold my hand. I'm not a fast typist. The action is fast, and I had no idea how to navigate to a "room". After about 3 minutes of confusion, I grabbed my purse and left :o I'm sure the issue was "me" not the chat area.

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Yes, the Community Center gets multiple streams of conversation going, and it is impossible for me to tell who is saying what to whom.

There are a couple of ways to go to a specific room:

You can either choose which room to go to directly at the login screen (it defaults to the Community Center, but can be changed by clicking on the menu drop down button to the right)

Otherwise, login, then while in the Community Center, over on the right is the list of other rooms. Double click on the room you wish to go to, and it should take you there in a bit.

I sometimes log into the 30+ room, but infrequently due to other things going on.

Please try that sometime and see if it works for you.

Huggs,

Opal

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Guest erinanita

Hi Michelle,

I can certainly relate to Christmas without booze. My first Christmas without booze was undoubtedly the worst one ever. It wasn't the amount of liquor that was there - it was the fact that I just couldn't get into the mood without drinking. I had to call my sponsor for a boost.

But it did get better. One day at a time I learned to get by without drinking. I never want to drink again. I love to go to parties and it is so nice to wake up in the morning and know where I was, what I said and where I parked my car last night.

I'm relatively new to the playground and being a transsexual, the last thing I expected to be discussing was my drinking. But it's something that I can never escape from. I stopped going to meetings when I began my transition so it is rather enjoyable to have a place to talk.

I hope you have better luck with the chat rooms. I rarely go there because I just can't keep up with the conversation. It's bad enough in the forums. I read a post that I want to respond to and when my post gets up, five more people have already replied.

So, Michelle, I do hope your holidays work out well without the booze.

Love,

Thtufus

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Guest Elizabeth K

Its good to see people here that are not usually around - we so need you and your input!

The drinking can be a part of our dysphoria as it is a relatively common to THINK you can drown your depression - a depression caused by trans-issues, usually. Sometimes drinking excessively is caused because we find ourselves alone - not wanting to be confronted by our friends and family. Or the opposite, we drink because we think it loosens inhabitions and therefore eases those awkward social situations, and dull family get-togethers!.

You know all that.

What needs to be said is this, transitioning is the hardest thing you will ever do (should you chose that route). BUT! YOU CANNOT SUCCEED if you are fighting other serious problems. Drinking to excess is an extremely serious problem, even if you consider everything 'under control."

AND that isn't the 'biggie." There is a serious problem with properly metablizing the HRT drugs if you are drinking. HRT is very hard on your liver, and you should NOT be complicating that with alcohol.

{off the pulpit Lizzy - they know all that)

My best Christmas? 1976 - birth of my first child, my daughter - December 22

My worst Christmas? 1976 - death of my beloved wife - December 23

I drank heavily every Christmas thereafter - not much during the year, but BIG TIME around Christmastime for years and years after. The ENTIRE days of the holidays found me high as I could get.

Thirty-three years later I was beginning my transition - having been diagnosed the November before. I decided to NOT drink as I had started HRT on 10 December - and my doctor had warned me about the dangers. So I was sober during that sad sad sad thirty or so days.

But I made it work! A few glasses of wine since then - but no hard liquor, especially the whiskey and sweet vermoth - my choice of oblivion - usually three or four martini glasses of it, I regret to say.

Do I miss it? Yes and no, I had to totally quit - no social drinking, kinda a bummer.

But none of the women in my famly EVER drank alcohol. I am now a woman - therefore, I don't drink alcohol! I just face up to my sadness, or wait or others to lose THEIR inhibitions at a gathering, and I am better for that.

Lizzy

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Nice to see you ladies responding! Maybe there are readers who aren't posters who can identify. Erinanita, I find it interesting that you quit attending meetings when you started transitioning. Was it fear that others wouldn't accept it or were you just too busy? I'm here because I finally did a sex 5th step with a gender therapist. I couldn't bring myself to do it with my regular sponsor. Its opened up a new world and, after a couple of months, told my sponsor all...

I was at a meeting this morning at 7am with 40 sober mostly happy AAers and shared that is a miracle that going into the holidays we're all sober and pretty happy. If there is ever a time of year to stay in today, its the holidays if they are traditionally hard to cope with, right?

The good news is that there is more than one path, as Lizzy attests too. 12 stepping is not the only path. I just couldn't do it on my own :P It only took me 100 tries before I realized it!!!

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Its good to see people here that are not usually around - we so need you and your input!

The drinking can be a part of our dysphoria as it is a relatively common to THINK you can drown your depression - a depression caused by trans-issues, usually. Sometimes drinking excessively is caused because we find ourselves alone - not wanting to be confronted by our friends and family. Or the opposite, we drink because we think it loosens inhabitions and therefore eases those awkward social situations, and dull family get-togethers!.

You know all that.

What needs to be said is this, transitioning is the hardest thing you will ever do (should you chose that route). BUT! YOU CANNOT SUCCEED if you are fighting other serious problems. Drinking to excess is an extremely serious problem, even if you consider everything 'under control."

AND that isn't the 'biggie." There is a serious problem with properly metablizing the HRT drugs if you are drinking. HRT is very hard on your liver, and you should NOT be complicating that with alcohol.

{off the pulpit Lizzy - they know all that)

My best Christmas? 1976 - birth of my first child, my daughter - December 22

My worst Christmas? 1976 - death of my beloved wife - December 23

I drank heavily every Christmas thereafter - not much during the year, but BIG TIME around Christmastime for years and years after. The ENTIRE days of the holidays found me high as I could get.

Thirty-three years later I was beginning my transition - having been diagnosed the November before. I decided to NOT drink as I had started HRT on 10 December - and my doctor had warned me about the dangers. So I was sober during that sad sad sad thirty or so days.

But I made it work! A few glasses of wine since then - but no hard liquor, especially the whiskey and sweet vermoth - my choice of oblivion - usually three or four martini glasses of it, I regret to say.

Do I miss it? Yes and no, I had to totally quit - no social drinking, kinda a bummer.

But none of the women in my famly EVER drank alcohol. I am now a woman - therefore, I don't drink alcohol! I just face up to my sadness, or wait or others to lose THEIR inhibitions at a gathering, and I am better for that.

Lizzy

Ya know Lizzy, when I was drinking I always thought life had dealt me a short hand... When I went to speaker meetings I heard incredible stories such as this where people overcame pain I could only imagine. I realized that I was just a garden variety self pitying alcoholic, though admittedly one in a dress at times :D

You're an inspiration.

Michelle

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Nice to see you ladies responding! Maybe there are readers who aren't posters who can identify. Erinanita, I find it interesting that you quit attending meetings when you started transitioning. Was it fear that others wouldn't accept it or were you just too busy? I'm here because I finally did a sex 5th step with a gender therapist. I couldn't bring myself to do it with my regular sponsor. Its opened up a new world and, after a couple of months, told my sponsor all...

I was at a meeting this morning at 7am with 40 sober mostly happy AAers and shared that is a miracle that going into the holidays we're all sober and pretty happy. If there is ever a time of year to stay in today, its the holidays if they are traditionally hard to cope with, right?

The good news is that there is more than one path, as Lizzy attests too. 12 stepping is not the only path. I just couldn't do it on my own :P It only took me 100 tries before I realized it!!!

I stopped going to meetings when I started transition because I was afraid of being ridiculed and lack of others' acceptance. I had tried to find a sponsor during that time, but after telling my story to him he almost ran out of the coffee shop. I just thought I would give it some time but now is been more than five years, so I'll just have go back.

I do really need to do a new 4th and 5th steps.

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I stopped going to meetings when I started transition because I was afraid of being ridiculed and lack of others' acceptance. I had tried to find a sponsor during that time, but after telling my story to him he almost ran out of the coffee shop. I just thought I would give it some time but now is been more than five years, so I'll just have go back.

I do really need to do a new 4th and 5th steps.

Are you in the country or a cosmopolitan area. Florida has some cow towns that I would be hard pressed to find someone to confide in. You say its been 5 years, are you white knuckling it? If you know you need to revisit steps 4 and 5 I'm guessing your feeling a burden. I would be willing to discuss 4 and 5 and how it worked for me via pm or some such thing.

BTW, As you probably know sobriety and recovery aren't always the same. Recovery is doing the steps and having the promises come true and sobriety is not drinking.

Anyway, I hope everyone is getting into the holiday spirit.

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BTW, As you probably know sobriety and recovery aren't always the same. Recovery is doing the steps and having the promises come true and sobriety is not drinking.

Hi Michelle,

Actually I live in a city of around a million people. There are probably about 200 groups meeting weekly here. I have done about 3 fourth steps but I never have gotten around to doing a step 5. Properly. But I've done all the other steps. (And yes, I know how ridiculous that sounds)

I am not white-knuckling it - I no longer crave alcohol.

Right around last Christmas I was having a problem with severe depression. Although I finally did get the doctor to give me some antidepressants, I felt at the time that I could have beat the problem without drugs if I returned to AA. But I didn't bother because the drugs "cured" me. The drugs also could have contributed to a condition I developed that was very similar to Alzheimer's Disease. The psych told me to get off the antidepressant. He also went through all the other drugs that I use and commented that the rest were all necessary.

I still think I need to give AA a chance. I will look up my former sponsor and talk with him if he's still around.

Thtufus

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Well, it sure was for me! That Norman Rockwell world never existed for me and it was most painfully apparent at the holidays. I can't figure out Chat Rooms so I haven't been to the AA one here. My gender issues were always deeply buried at that time of year but I imagine for some here that may not be so. The biggest gender issue was kids home from school meant I had to curtail the occasional dressing up. That was the least of it though. Simply trying to live up to the idealized image of the perfect Christmas depressed me.

Maybe we should share some stories from the past or as they unfold this year instead of drinking over them. I have never started a thread like this before so don't know if it'll fly but it might help someone stay sober by trying it. I drank for over 30 years at the holidays and was scared of the first sober one. Didn't go to parties other than family necessities. Can anyone relate?

I know a couple of people who have sobriety dates between Thanksgiving and New Year. I figure it took alot of pain or embarrassment to stop at that time.

Who knows, it may be better to vent on a forum than fall from Grace by relapsing. Hiding bottles, lying about how much etc, Glad I don't do that any more wink.gif BTW, the most important tip I got was to always drive myself to events, never get stuck at a party with no way out!

Hugs

Michelle

Gee, look what I found!!! An old thread I started last November and... It'll be Christmas before we know it right? What a haaaard time to get sober, imho. I always had to wait till the holidays were over, BUT...if someone is thinking about this being the year to really do it, I'm thinking September or October is better than November or December for several reasons, such as: Fewer angry boyfriends, girlfriends, and spouses do to our poor behavior; fewer Dui's breaking up the holidays; office parties where we're not feeling like climbing into the punch bowel because reality is so edgy, we won't have to pretend we like egg nogg just to get the rum...

I know I always felt like an egg ready to crack when i quit drinking. :(

Today I don't have to live that way, thank god!

So if you think this is the year to really do it, might want to start now so the edge is off by the time the holidays roll in. And if you try and it just doesn't work, I can tell you those crazy 12 step recovery folks get pretty wild at the holidays! :lol:

Best wishes!

Michelle

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Never too early to start planning for the holidays.

I have less than a month to go for three years on this trip up out of relapse, but hey, the steps upward got me on to my full self realization, and to my referral for hormones two and a half years ago, it was a wonderful holiday present to myself.

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Yeah, so you got sober in October huh? Avoid the post holiday rush!

My pattern was always to swear I'd control it during the holidays....FAIL, then

Swear I'd quit after the college championship game in early January....FAIL

then Swear I'd quit after the Super Bowl....FAIL

then give up ....and continue drinking for another year... <_<

Hey..it is what it is... or rather was what it was....

But the good news is I don't have to do that anymore :)

Hugs,

Michelle

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Last post was September of this year, when I resurrected this thread from a year ago. And now it really is the holidays... And what a gift it is to be sober going into them. Its the night before Thanksgiving and I'm sober and joining friends for an 8:30 pm meeting, not because I need the meeting to be sober tonight but because friends ask me to help keep a new meeting going.

Every year while drinking I always thought how Christmas and Thanksgiving was never the Norman Rockwell experience I thought it should be and it always depressed me. Tomorrow I will have Turkey and stuffing with 350 people, sober alcoholics and their families...some happy and content and some hoping that one day they too can be happy and content. But each knows that if they follow the path laid down by those that preceded them into sobriety and a new way of life, they too will have that chance at happiness.

So if your holiday reality is the way mine was for so many years, a disconnect between "what is and what oughta be...", and you are medicating that disconnect with drugs or alcohol to get through it...I just want you to know that there is an alternative, and it is a phone call away, and it isn't necessary to wait till after the Super Bowl like I always tried to do!!!

Best wishes to those still suffering

Michelle

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Guest John Chiv

Michelle,

This is a very important message. I am glad you resurrected this thread. Have a great, sober Thanksgiving. And enjoy it with the pride in your determination and will.

John

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Guest pumpsara

Drinking is normal but drinking alcohol for some is not, so try placing some type of non alcoholic drink in your hand first. Try showing up with your favorite coffee flavor drink in your hand regardless what other are drinking and stick to it

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Guest Eliza_S

Some things are pretty timeless, I guess. I come from the Alanon side, but because of my experiences with a person who absolutely shouldn't drink and has had a lot of trouble battling it, I have a great deal of difficulty still with alcohol. I stopped keeping it in the house at all, and even 6 years later I still only have a little hard cider and perhaps a bottle of wine.

Loudly boozy parties make me feel sick at my stomach. I realize that perhaps the people there can handle their drinking, but it still makes me want to leave.

New Year's Eve is the really hard one for me. At least with Thanksgiving and Christmas in our family the emphasis is on food and gifts and companionship. New Year's Eve is about partying and drinking. A few times I've had a "no alcohol allowed" board game party. We play a number of the complex board games such as Ticket to Ride and drinking really is a detriment when you need to think. Plus I guess if you say ahead of time that there won't be alcohol in the house you only get the people who don't find it the centerpiece of a celebration.

The last two years, though, I've been to an AA Alkathon for New Year's Eve and just had the happiest New Year's celebrations of my life. So many people laughing and talking without a drink in their hand. It's very relaxing. Of course, there are a few people white-knuckling it, but the old timers make an effort to turn out to set the tone of the party. Do other people have Alkathons in their area? We have one for Thanksgiving, one for Christmas, and one for New Year's. As I said, I find the first two are not so alcohol-oriented, so I don't have personal experience, but I know that our area continues to hold them so I expect they are much needed.

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My home group sponsors an alkathon on Thanksgiving, Christmas eve day, Christmas, News year eve day and New years day. We keep speakers meeting going all day. For me though the most fun is cooking. We did over 65 turkeys and lots of corn beef as well as all the condiments. There is food all day and evening. News years night there is also a dance done by another meeting in town. For service it can't be beat! It was the first time i actually saw you could have more fun sober than drunk. It is quite a scene.

This will be my first year as Charlie but many of the folks have already met me. I spend as much time there as i can but this year will be doing a family meal for my cousins at our house as well. Its a good thing i'm sober! I'm glad to hear that Eliza has one as well. NJ rocks!

Hugs,

Charlie

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LOL, Charlie. When it comes to AA and AlAnon, Jersey really does rock. I get cranky if I have to drive more than 5 miles to a meeting. I think there's one within 5 miles of my home every day of the week, and 2 within easy reach on Saturday and Sunday.

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Well, it sure was for me! That Norman Rockwell world never existed for me and it was most painfully apparent at the holidays. I can't figure out Chat Rooms so I haven't been to the AA one here. My gender issues were always deeply buried at that time of year but I imagine for some here that may not be so. The biggest gender issue was kids home from school meant I had to curtail the occasional dressing up. That was the least of it though. Simply trying to live up to the idealized image of the perfect Christmas depressed me.

Maybe we should share some stories from the past or as they unfold this year instead of drinking over them. I have never started a thread like this before so don't know if it'll fly but it might help someone stay sober by trying it. I drank for over 30 years at the holidays and was scared of the first sober one. Didn't go to parties other than family necessities. Can anyone relate?

I know a couple of people who have sobriety dates between Thanksgiving and New Year. I figure it took alot of pain or embarrassment to stop at that time.

Who knows, it may be better to vent on a forum than fall from Grace by relapsing. Hiding bottles, lying about how much etc, Glad I don't do that any more wink.gif BTW, the most important tip I got was to always drive myself to events, never get stuck at a party with no way out!

Hugs

Michelle

So this is Christmas #3 for me here at Laura's Playground... Amazing,huh? My Christmases still aren't Norman Rockwell Paintings and I still havent had a drink.

One of the things I hadn't posted as a survival technique that I learned in AA was about... Expectations. almost every time I am disappointed or in pain about situations or peoples behavior it is due to having expectations which aren't being met. Sometimes the expectations are unrealistic, and maybe other times are just surprisingly unmet. Eiither way, the fewer expectations, the less pain at the holidays. For me, this does not mean I don't have standards or values, rather just that I try to accept things and people the way they are. My life will never be a Norman Rockwell Christmas, and sometimes that hurts... but if I don't build the holiday up to be something it is not, it reduces the pain.

My life is considerably different than in December 2011 and everything that is good is based on staying sober and not drinking. I t would all disappear if I tried to medicate my way through the holidays. I am out to my son, and at a new church and to all friends today. All the love and respect would disappear if I relapsed and became the person I was before. Love and respect is based on engaging in Loveable and Respectworthy Behavior, right? If my behavior returned to what it was before I would not be loveable and respectable... Many choices exist if I am sober, nothing is possible if i am active in my addiction... Many personal challenges exist but today I am worthy of love and respect so that is not one of the issues.

Merry Christmas all!

Michelle

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  • 11 months later...

So, another year roles by... Today at a meeting someone talked about a suicide last week. The holidays sure can be hard... This is my first holiday season in 36 years without my former wife as part of it. Being trans and alcoholic can be tough, no? Particularly if the family is strained due to our transgender issues...

The good news is I haven't had to drink over it. For those with a soul sickness who are facing tough holidays with glass or bottle in hand, might I suggest there is a solution and you never need to feel alone again. My gratitude to AA is stronger than ever. With three+ years here, I have seen how folks can become lost... or consumed by fear, not knowing what to do or which way to turn. AA is a navigation system, like a GPS, for how to deal with life on life's terms. I no longer need to self medicate with substances in order to "endure" the holidays, divorce, financial setbacks, etc.....if I follow the path illuminated by those around me, who are on similar spiritual journeys..

It may be hard to concede to our innermost selves that the substance abuse problem is winning the war, but the solution is far preferable to the downhill slide that accompanies losing ground and watching hope vanish.....

My solution to the divorce was to surround myself with friends, rather than drinking to ease the pain. I always wanted more friends, and in Recovery i learned how to get them.... Turns out the best way to have friends is to be a friend :) Thanksgiving dinner was for eight and Christmas dinner will be for 12.... Its good to be sober today.

Hugs

Michelle

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"It may be hard to concede to our innermost selves that the substance abuse problem is winning the war, but the solution is far preferable to the downhill slide that accompanies losing ground and watching hope vanish….."

​It took me years to find out that my "medicine" was the problem. The solution after discovering the problem came over time with the help of others. I could never have gotten sober without your help. I still need to remember how little power i have when confronting my addiction. Friends, here, in the rooms of AA and throughout my life give me a reason to find joy in my life. Isolation alone can cause me to get lost in my own mind. Living a life of fantasy and forgetting that life is to live.

Thank you for being there in the holiday season. We we are the santa's for each other and hopefully can spread the joy we have found in sobriety.

Hugs,

Charlie

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Btw charlie, this is the year that I followed your path and started taking in non-lgbt meetings as my true self. Like you, I have been accepted in meetings and, if judged at all, it is for the content of my character, not the packaging that surrounds it.

It is indeed good to be sober today and a blessing to have you and the others in recovery here at Laura's as part of my life.

Michelle

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Nice thread! I am very happy to be sober and have some friends to spend the holiday season with. Snowing here in NY and will be all day. So i am staying in.

Holidays were tough in early sobriety but i was fortunate enough to live in areas where they had plenty of alkathons. i spent many a before dinner and post-dinner sitting in meetings. The holidays have gotten easier when it comes to not drinking.

The depression of not having family during this time of year is pretty horrible. Unlike the AA i got sober in AA in NY is less like a family. people don't really pull you in. So most of the time i go to meetings on Holidays and then the movies.

One thing I was taught in AA and is always good to remember is that everyday, no matter what the name, is just that a day and nothing more. We stay sober one day at a time.

This Christmas if the weather allows I'll be at the alkathon.

Rhyrus

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      I spend time reflecting on this too. I do so in terms of transcending mind. I study Vedanta, mystical yoga philosophy, under guru's guidance. The mind-body complex is spoken of where "mind" is further parsed as ego, mind, intellect, unconscious all interacting with each other. It is said that one's real Self is soul and from a transcendent point of view, soul is not individualized, but One. It is through the illusion of ignorance we experience a world of multiplicity. Soul reflected through conditioned mind projects our seemingly subjective experience. When our unconscious is steeped in negative impressions, the ego is inflated. That inflated ego influences intellect which is the faculty of discernment, reasoning, and will, to direct the mind to project the negativity it believes is true. Negative experience of the world creates further negative impressions in the unconscious and thus a vicious cycle occurs. But likewise we are able to exert self-effort to control the mind, break that cycle and plant seeds of positivity in the unconscious by doing good practices in many ways.    It is said that mind is the cause of bondage and release. My guru once said if your thinking lead to more and more thinking, then there is something wrong with your thinking. But if your thoughts lead to thoughtlessness, then you are on the right track. That is, one can do many things with the mind - make the mind one-pointed, make the mind distracted, or make the mind so still that it negates itself. That is a taste of bliss.   So, do I have a rich inner life? I would say I do. But that was not a given; I aspire for it. It requires persistent effort and patience. And the term "rich" is not literal. Lord Jesus said, blessed are the poor in spirit for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. By this, "poor" is also not meant literally. Poor in spirit is the state of cessation of ego and attachment - there is no "me" or "mine". In that state the kingdom which is Absolute Bliss is attained.
    • Ivy
      Welcome Cynthia
    • Sally Stone
      Post 11 “The Move West”    I mentioned in previous posts how many of the places I lived impacted my comfort level, and from my perspective, living in New Jersey was the perfect location for a trans woman.  However, other factors, such as property taxes and living costs, meant my wife and I couldn’t comfortable retire there.  Additionally, my wife wanted to live closer to our kids, and I couldn’t deny her that desire, especially since she dutifully followed me around the globe during my military and flying career.  Because the boys both lived on the “left” coast, we were going to retire somewhere in the western half of the United States.    Searching for places to retire, we wanted a locale that was easy on taxes and benefitted retirees.  However, I was ever vigilant for a place that was going to be trans friendly.  We actually passed on many places because, based on the research I did, they were not considered good locales for alternative lifestyles.  The internet has its issues, but there are numerous LGBTQ resources that helped us make an informed decision.  Despite the research we did, you really can’t know if you are going to be comfortable somewhere until you’ve actually lived there.   The plan was to select a location, and move when I retired.  However, the demand for real estate in New Jersey put our house in high-demand, and our real estate agent suggested we sell as soon as possible to take advantage of the market.  We put the house up for sale and it sold in under 15-days.  Suddenly, we had to find a new place to live, so instead of waiting until I stopped working, we relocated immediately.    Nevada had always come up as a great retirement location.  There was no state tax, and the cost of living was much lower than any of the other places we had on our list.  Surprisingly, many of the larger Nevada municipalities scored high as LGBTQ locations.  Las Vegas got the best LGBTQ ratings but we didn’t want to live in such a large city.  However, both Carson City and Reno looked like acceptable alternatives.  We chose the Reno area, although the house we bought is about 50-mile away from the city.   In the back of my mind, I kept wondering if the research I had done about Reno being LGBTQ friendly was accurate.  Clearly, I had assumed some risk here, since the research results didn’t specifically address the transgender community.  Adding to my anxiety, I couldn’t find any local trans groups, and the Reno LGBTQ community center’s transgender page hadn’t been refreshed in several years.  The only way for me to know for sure what things would be like for me, was to put myself out there.    Sally’s first day in Reno would be a June Saturday morning.  The plan was to do some shopping and find a place to eat lunch.  I started my day by stopping at Starbucks for coffee.  It was a pleasant surprise to greeted so openly by the staff, and this seemed a first positive sign.  Then it was off to the mall.  I shopped at a few of the department stores, and strolled through the mall proper.  It was a busy Saturday, with lots of people out and about, but I never noticed an odd or disparaging look, nor did I encounter a personal interaction that wasn’t anything but pleasant and cordial.  After the mall, I stopped at PF Chang’s for lunch.  Since I was alone, I asked the hostess if I could get food at the bar.  The young lady tending the bar that day was so sweet, and we immediately became friends.  The next thing I knew, I was being introduced to other servers, and became the center of their attention.  They raved about my outfit and the boots I was wearing.  Talk about feeling special.    So, my first day as Sally was awesome, and since that first outing, I have never had an uncomfortable moment in Reno.  I have also noticed several trans women in my travels, so obviously there is a population here.  It kind of surprises me there isn’t an active social group, but then maybe the women I’ve encountered have settled into society here, and don’t need it.  I don’t actually need a trans specific social group either.  My wife is my BFF, and she and I get out together often enough that I don’t feel lonely or alone.   I bet there are other girls out there; however, who are still in the closet, or perhaps don’t know how much fun Reno is.  For those girls, I have considered starting a social group.  In fact, I have already coordinated a “girl’s” weekend for this coming September.  The plan is to spend the weekend enjoying all Reno has to offer, but centered around a Saturday evening concert.  It should be lots of fun, and I’m looking forward to it.  The challenge is getting the word out.  I probably need to coordinate with the local LGBTQ center to help spread the word.   Turns out Reno is a fun place to live even though I am trans.  The people Sally has met have all been very friendly, but I can’t imagine it being any other way, since Sally is also friendly, and based on my interaction with others, very likeable as well.  I think I’m living proof that when you are open, friendly, have a positive attitude, and smile a lot, people respond in kind, even when they might know, or have a hint you weren’t born the gender you are presenting.    One could assume that my positive social experiences have just been dumb luck, but when I consider how long I have been out as Sally, it can’t just be luck.  I know in my heart, that I am doing something right, that my female personality resonates in a way that ensures I am accepted as the woman I am trying to be.   Hugs,   Sally
    • Ivy
    • Betty K
      I’m not saying that situation will change for you — how could I know? — but I can say it changed for me. I am frequently astonished at how differently I behave since transitioning, how much more relaxed and free and confident I am, and how much of my behaviour seems — to me and to others — genuinely feminine. It can happen.
    • Abigail Genevieve
      Good information, thanks.
    • MaeBe
      The behaviors you mention are all socialized, they’re not natal. The women all lived lives where this behavior is expected and they learned. That’s not to say every person aligns with societal “norms” or does it well, this situation was a microcosm. I think I understand where your head is at and I’m confident nothing I wrote is news to you, but look at it this way: do what brings you joy and the rest will follow. At the end it seems like you got in the way of your own joy, the others were including you be it through politeness or acceptance, and only when the Self got in the way did the interaction change.
    • Ladypcnj
      Here are some safety tips whenever going out: 1. Make sure your cellphone is fully charged, and don't forget to bring the charger with you. 2. Tell a trusted friend or family member who is accepting about where you're going to be (if you're traveling alone). 3. Bring along a trusted friend or someone else that is in the community, go together, and afterwards leave the place together. 4. Be aware of your surroundings.
    • Mirrabooka
      I’m posting this here because maybe it is a sign that I dislike my natal self in some ways that I hadn’t thought of before.   A situation happened yesterday which ended up giving me a good ol’ reality check. It left me feeling quite deflated. As a result, once again, I’m questioning my place on the trans rainbow spectrum. It’s not so much that I feel like an imposter, but rather, I feel like an alien.   Our oldest daughter is a single mom and her daughter, our granddaughter, is going on seven. They had a special event at her school yesterday; it was Special Person’s Day, where parents or significant others were invited to participate in some out-of-class activities in the last hour with the students. Since our daughter was working, my wife and I were glad to attend in her place and our granddaughter was thrilled to see us.   My wife isn’t disabled, but she’s not especially capable of doing physical stuff. So, it was always going to be me holding onto the tug-of-war rope with half a dozen mothers against the kids, just as it was to get in the rock/paper/scissors comp where the loser went to the back of the line and the winner had to sprint madly along the line to mee the next contestant. It was nice to be doing something amongst a group of lovely women, not that they knew that I was emulating them. There was some small talk and a bit of gentle banter with these strangers, and it felt nice; I felt included. Of course, these women were just being good humans and not actually including me as one of them. Not that I expected them to do so.   Then we went to the art room and waited outside until the previous group finished up. I became observant during this time, not ogling the ladies amongst the throng at all, but just taking in their hairstyles and clothing choices and the spontaneous, intuitive conversations between them. I started to get a sinking feeling. I was nothing like them, not just in appearance, but in womanly ways. Once inside and assisting the kids, I found it impossible to interact with any of the mothers at all. It’s as if I could see their large pink auras all intermingling, and here was I with my tiny blue (purple at best) aura tied to an anvil and unable to think of myself as anything but an outlier. I almost felt embarrassed to have long hair.   It doesn’t matter how womanly I feel inside, or what feminine mannerisms automatically happen, or how I might display myself to keep my inner woman happy – I am missing the naturality of it all. And that's what gave me the feeling of being deflated.   Just had to get this off my chest.    
    • Cynthia Slowan
      Good Morning!!    I hope everyone has a nice day.  I love rain but am happy to see the sun trying to peep through this morning in North Carolina.     I have been in the foothills for about a week visiting friends and family and will be heading home to the coast in a few hours.     I have to pack my car before I can enjoy my morning ☕️ then hope to have a pleasant five hour drive.     💗Cynthia 
    • Betty K
      I remember this well. I used to spend two hours getting ready every time I went out! But yes, going full-time put paid to that. I still like to look good, and I totally agree about standing out vs blending in — plenty of cis women stand out and seem happy to do so, so why shouldn’t we? — but I also appreciate the comfort I feel in relatively more casual (but still feminine) clothes these days.    As to the fetish thing, ugh, you did well to put aside that concern. Billie Eilish just told Rolling Stone that she masturbates to her own reflection in a mirror; if that isn’t “love of oneself as a woman” I don’t know what is.   
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