Uterus Transplant

[Guest Michele H]

Reading a book by Germaine Greer (she really really really doesn't like us) where one of her slams was that no "Man made woman " has ever asked to have a uterus and bear children. My reation was - hey if it was availalbe I'd sign up to be the first! That got me thinking - first - virtually every other organ in the body can be transplanted - why not a uterus - or for that matter - the entire works? That then got me to thinking - am I the only one? - is Germaine essentially correct and there really is no interest. So A little pole - who amongts the mtf crowd would sign up for such a transplant and just for equal time - Why couldn't male testes, scrotum and penius be transplanted.

Looking forward to your comments

[Guest Nekomata]

Yes, I'd like to have been born with the ability to bear my own children.

[MaryEllen]

I would do so in a heartbeat.

[Guest Daru]

I'd do it.

[Guest Keira]

Although I don't want children at this point in my life, I'd still like to have the ability to bear them in case I ever change my mind.

[Guest theEND]

That seems like a pretty stupid argument to me, I hate when people make such ignorant generalized statements. Unless she's met every MTF in the world I don't think she's qualified to state what they all think. However, even if it is true that a lot of MTFs wouldn't wish to bear children if they could, nobody criminalizes biowomen who have the same sentiments :S

[Guest RainBird]

Yes definately! I dream of one day being able nurture a child's life inside me and bringing them into the world!

[Guest Donna Jean]

I must say yes...given the ability to have children would absolutly be incredible!! I would do it in a heartbeat. That would be the ultimate part of being female and I can't think of anything more satisfying... of course this is'nt going to happen anytime soon, so I must just dream and fill my head with good thoughts of what I can do and not what I can not.......But, my answer is "Yes"

Peace

Donna Jean

[Guest mwade1981]

I too would do it in a heart beet. I have even done some reaserch on the topic. It terns out that they have done one uterouse transplant already, and there planing on doing one in the US. But the problem isn't the actual transplant it is the anti-rejection drugs that are required after having a transplant. There are questions about weithr they can be given at a low enough level to minimize the risk to the chiled, and still suppress the immune system enough prevent rejecion. Luckily there have been some major improvment in ani-rejection techneeks, so it may be possable in the near futter to have this procedure.

Morgan

[Guest Kitten]

I hate that I don't have the ability to bear children. Yes, I'd do this in a heartbeat. Sadly, I don't think we'll ever see it.

[Guest gwenthlian]

I would love to bear children but like Kitten, I cant see this happening any time soon. Give it a decade or two and who knows?

[Guest Madison_Always]

i would love to have the ability to have kids i dont want them now but down the road it would be the ultimate feeling of completion for me

[Guest Isobelle Fox]

Yeah, put me on the "me too" list. It makes me sad that no matter what happens in my life, I'll never have my own children. I do not feel that the ability to do so or the desire to do so is the measure of a woman however. Many biological females cannot have children, and many of those who can do not want to. Neither are diminished as women by their conditions or decisions.

On the basis of the remark made here I'd say the person who made these statements is very sadly ignorant. MtF transsexuals are not "man made women," for starters. They are what they are on the day they're born, and whatever comes of it beyond that is no one's to judge, really. She seems to be basing her analysis, if it can be called that, on a conception of gender which is akin in its own way to the belief that the earth is flat. Its day has come and gone.

Upon what basis does she make the claim that none of us have ever asked for a uterus? How does one determine what every transsexual has asked for? Besides, what use is it to ask for that which we know we cannot have?

But even having said that, I can tell you that as far as I know she is just wrong anyway. Perhaps research into the subject would have better served her.

Look into Lili Elbe. Back in the 30s she underwent five surgeries. One of them was the transplantation of ovaries. She had to have them removed because of rejection. But her fifth surgery, apparently, was an attempt to transplant a uterus. Because she wanted to have children. Complications from this last surgery eventually killed her.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lili_Elbe

I think most of us strive to end our suffering, and to that end do whatever science, the conditions of our particular lives, and our finances will allow. I am fairly certain that these restrictions do not limit our wishes, though, which can and most likely always do go well beyond them.

Some people, and it sounds like this author is one of them, seem to feel threatened when their concept of gender is questioned. I dont have much sympathy for these people. I think most of them should be incredibly grateful for the fact that they were born into bodies and lives they can be comfortable with, and if they cannot concieve of the discomfort that our condition can and does cause, the least that they could do would be to go on with their somewhat more idealic existences and leave us alone while we sort ours out. : P

[Guest Evan_J]

Brava Isobelle. All perfectly articulated to the point I can only go "what she said" lol.

But I'll put my "equal time" vote in as a male regarding the scrotum, testes, penis transplant: I would run through burning flames for it. Particularly so that I could father a child and thats an entirely "other" desire not to be confused with giving birth to one for the uninformed mainstream

For me it was not only something to get over personally but heartbreaking in a particular relationship where the woman I lived with was crushed, crying, and aching to be able to become pregrant and bear a child fathered by me. Thats a consideration that I have yet to hear anyone bring up outside of an FtM person or their S/O's until now.

[Guest Sara N]

I would also do it.

[Guest Isobelle Fox]

Brava Isobelle. All perfectly articulated to the point I can only go "what she said" lol.

But I'll put my "equal time" vote in as a male regarding the scrotum, testes, penis transplant: I would run through burning flames for it. Particularly so that I could father a child and thats an entirely "other" desire not to be confused with giving birth to one for the uninformed mainstream

For me it was not only something to get over personally but heartbreaking in a particular relationship where the woman I lived with was crushed, crying, and aching to be able to become pregrant and bear a child fathered by me. Thats a consideration that I have yet to hear anyone bring up outside of an FtM person or their S/O's until now.

Thanks Evan. You bring up a really good point, too.

Many of us, though not all, have been blessed with the ability to bring life into the world. I could father children at this point in my life. But that IS an entirely seperate issue, yes. The biological ability to have children and the inclination to nurture are two components of the same desire, and unfortunately for people like us, as with so many other things, they are disharmonius. I would love to have children, but I don't want to be a father. There are many levels on which I feel that I would be a failure as such.

Its not so much about the physical fact of pregnancy and birth, though the ability to give life to someone is itself a transcendent thing which I wish I had. Its more about who we are and what we have to give to that life once it joins us in the world. It is to pass your spirit as well as your genes. It is to be part of a family. It is the fulfillment of that ancient circle for all involved: mother, father, and child.

[Guest Kelly]

sometimes i wish it would bbe possilble to completely change and litterally give birth to a child but

i realize that is unlikely and ive had my goals set on adopting but if the technology advances and someone sucsessfully has a child i would jump for the surgery

[Guest Darrel]

NO! I would NOT like a uterus.

Aah, on a serious note, I wouldn't want a penis transplant. I'd much rather it be made of my own flesh and blood, and my own DNA. So, I'd much rather cheer on a way to grow these organs (the profession I want to get when I'm done with college) than transplant.

[Guest Nelly]

Hi,

I get the question in the past. Do MTF want to give birth? Some woman has a very big drive to have a child. Sometimes they steal it from a mother. This thread will answer my question. Thanks!

For me I can not tell. I can not imagine yet to be a father (or as a woman a mother).

Beside the transplant problems there are some more problems. Are the bones of the pelvis good in shape to make natural birth? Are you able to make breastfeeding? Will the transplant hold the physical stress of the pregnacy? If you are able to give natural birth will the tissue hold?

Greetings

Nelly

[Sally]

I would have to say if I were younger (about twenty - five years) I would be holding out hope for this possibility for myself. As it is I hope that someone will work on the project and enable our younger sisters to fullfil a dream that most of us have had during our lifetimes. I can't speak for every one and I won't try, but I do feel that many of us have had similar feelings. While growing up and knowing that we were different, no matter how hard we tried to fight it, thoughts would pop into our minds - weddings in long white gowns, the perfect life, having children and living happily ever after. I have had numerous dreams throughout my life of going through pregnancy and delivering a baby - through natural childbirth. But I have had other fantasies that I will have to live without ever completing - physically becoming the woman that I have always been is not a dream that I am willing to let die.

Someday the science will exist to do those extensive transplants, but until then I just hope that we can gain greater acceptance in the main stream - there will always be bigots, fear produces and sustains them but seeing how much the attitude towards gays has changed in my lifetime there is hope. Progress is slow and if you are a very small and very secretive minority it is very slow - a number of important people must 'come out' to make this kind of progress. Once I have attained the neccessary funding for my transformation, I intend to transition and continue to live in the town where I now live - in the same house. I'm not going to wear a sign that says 'Transsexual MTF', but I'm not goint to move and change jobs and try to dissapear. If I held a postion of great influence I would gladly become a spokeswoman for our cause, but no one has noticed me in 50 plus years of being a man - why would they suddenly listen now?

Sally

[Guest raydub]

If I held a postion of great influence I would gladly become a spokeswoman for our cause, but no one has noticed me in 50 plus years of being a man - why would they suddenly listen now?

they would listen because you would be speaking. you would be speaking and representing a voice that many all over need to hear. youve said it already progress is slow. progress is slow because not enough people stand up and speak out. if we can rally together, gain support from our transbrothers and transsisters and all our allies.. we can make a difference. we have to try. we will try. dont lose the spirit because our day will come. but we have to put in the work. everyone wants change, but we have to put in the work. individually AS WELL AS getting others together to work WITH us. no we cant do it alone. but if someone sees you, theyll know its possible... and you may gain one or two. and when more see them, theyll gain a few more. and you will all have friends and family (new or old) and we take all the support and the love we've got and we show them. we show them they have to listen. that we do matter, that we do have a voice. and they will have to listen.

...Ray

[Guest Mrs. Miniver]

How joyous it would be to bare a child and especially a daughter. Not only so that I might know the emotional and physical aspects of childbirth , but also that which would come later. The nurturing of the child through her mother's milk and being able to see her grow into a woman and being able to help her along the way.

[Guest CharlieRose]

From a young age, I've been sort of weirded out/darkly fascinated with the idea of me being pregnant. But, in reality, I was always sure I'd adopt. (Not the second pregnant man here!)

Maybe it's just because I knew I would never have biological children, maybe not.

You know those people who go through massive multiple expensive fertility treatments just so they can have their own kids? I never understood that. It seemed kind of selfish to me. I'm only sixteen, but still. I know that they can add an egg with another egg and get a baby in animals, but if they perfect the process in humans, I'd really rather spend the money on a kid that already needs a parent.

If I could easily and cheaply have children, would I? Maybe one. (And then I'd adopt five more. I like big families like mine) I don't know. Maybe the "need to breed" just hasn't hit me yet, but then again, I'd say that's is a good thing, seeing as I probably won't be able to fulfill it if it comes.

[Guest tormentedguy]

I have been blessed with three children from two marraiges and I was so envious during my wives pregnancies. I wanted so badly to be able to nurture life from the beginning and feel it living in my womb. To me there is nothing more wonderful or beautiful.

[Guest Kat]

I know if I had the option of having kids I would. Does anyone know if anyone is researching a way for us to do this?