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VS trans friendly ? plus i feel bad about this.


Sakura

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Was out and abouts to day checking out post 4th of july sales ( made out like a bandit to day btw ) i went into victoria secret cause they were having an awsome deal ( 5 for 25 panties and 2 for 25 bras , any one that has shopped in VS knows that is a steal( sorry don't mean to rave about my bargin hunting ) any ways after wards all was said and done. i headed to the cash register to check out. i was not paying much attention to the cashier as anthony was talking to me . but when she reached out to take the items i was purchasing . i noticed her hands . by the perfectly manicured nails i could tell they were intended to be the hands of a woman. but i thought " damn she has man hands " then as my eyes worked up from her hands to her face . it quickly became clear, to me any way. she was trans. not that she looked bad or anything , asides from the hands and the brow ridge she actually looked pretty alright , so at first i'm like alright she is not trans just an overtly masculin chick . but then i found my self just itching for her to say something . any thing ( and i know i was stairing , one of the things i feel bad about ) and finally she did , she asked for my phone number, they do that at VS for what ever reason. and i seen anthony turn to look out of the corner of my eye. as well as a customer standing to my right at another register. and it was like " SHE IS TRANS !!! " not that i said this of course . and not that she sounded like jonny cash , but definately not female either.

i don't know why but it just does my heart good to see those out and doing it ( working living ect ect )and working at VS , for some reason it impressed me and it makes me wonder if VS is transfriendly ? not that i care been shopping there for years. but i wondered about it.

again i feel bad cause she had to have known i was stairing at her, but in the 7 years i have been in transition ...... i have only bumped into maybe 4 ( that i know of ) and she was about my age as well, even rarer. it is like seeing a unicorn or some other mythical creature lol.

Sakura

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Guest Lizzie McTrucker

Last time I was in VS the person at the register was a gay man. That, at first, confused the heck out of me but hey, people gotta work and if they called him for an interview, they obviously had no problem with it so neither should I. Macy's is very trans-friendly, too, I learned that during my interview there...

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Guest AlyTheGreatAngel

WELL one day I want to be a VS model...a girl can dream. *wink* Actually, they hire anyone now. I see guys working too, which at first made me feel uncomfortable because they looked straight and uncomfortable too. So I think it might be that they are expanding who they hire. C:

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which at first made me feel uncomfortable because they looked straight and uncomfortable too. So I think it might be that they are expanding who they hire. C:

No doubt , if i had a guy ask if i needed help being fitted for a bra. i would need one big enough to hide my face in embarasment . seriously my face would prolly explode lol.

If I was that girl, and I read this, I'd be seriously depressed >_<

the truth is often depressing. :(

Sakura

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Guest Megan_Lynn

in the 7 years i have been in transition ...... i have only bumped into maybe 4 ( that i know of ) and she was about my age as well, even rarer. it is like seeing a unicorn or some other mythical creature lol.

Sakura

While I do not personaly know any other trans people in my daily life. There was this one day I was at a walmart close to my home. While checking out there was anouther trans woman in front of me in line. How I know is beside the very bad try at a female voice she was trying very hard to hide her large adams apple. There was also a stock girl working close by that is a trans woman and the casher 2 lines down is a very tall 6'5' plus ( see her pretty much every time I am at that store). In a roughly a 25 ft circle there was 4 transwoman. This was totaly amazing to me. Would give almost anything to be able to talk face to face with anoughter transwoman. To finaly talk with someone that truly understand me.

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Guest Krisina

If I was that girl and I read this. I would think, I can't hide all of my birth traits i have worked to change but I am living my life being myself and i am happy. If others take encouragement from seeing me working at VS that they could o it too, being accepted at a well known clothing chain. The world isn't such a scary place. The world is becoming more accepting and tolerant in our culture.

Krisina

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Guest Pammy

I keep vowing to have a T Shirt made that says Yes! I'm trans. It is OK to talk to me!

I fully understand why we follow the rule of never outing another transperson, but sometimes I *hate* that rule.

How will we ever make friends if we are all too afraid to say anything?

Maybe we can all just agree on a secret handshake or something? A colored ribbon? A lapel button? Something?

Love

Pamela

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Guest Megan_Lynn

If I was that girl, and I read this, I'd be seriously depressed >_<

Being trans we many of us seem to have a hyper sence that alows us to see what most miss. Since we worry so much about any feature that could out us we can see them so easy. Its no different then if you get a new car all the sudden you will notice every other car like yours. But before they were just some random car you paied zero attention to.

I fully understand why we follow the rule of never outing another transperson, but sometimes I *hate* that rule.

How will we ever make friends if we are all too afraid to say anything?

Maybe we can all just agree on a secret handshake or something? A colored ribbon? A lapel button? Something?

Love

Pamela

Pamela I feel the same way. There is no way I would ever do that but darn it would be so nice to be able to befriend some others like us. It tends to make one feel pretty alone in this world when you can not sit down and talk to someone that truly understands what you are going through.

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I keep vowing to have a T Shirt made that says Yes! I'm trans. It is OK to talk to me!

I fully understand why we follow the rule of never outing another transperson, but sometimes I *hate* that rule.

How will we ever make friends if we are all too afraid to say anything?

Maybe we can all just agree on a secret handshake or something? A colored ribbon? A lapel button? Something?

Love

Pamela

LOL , my fiancee , was like " don't yous guys have like a code word or a secret hand shake. or something ?" I would never out another trans person specially at their job. that is just bad form.

And i do say i live a rather trans isolated life , this site is about the only regular contact i have with other trans folk. while i do have friends that just happen to be trans , they live just a tad to far away to have a practical friendship with. other than seeing them every couple of years . i often times do feel very much alone in all of this , and while i do have friends. it would be nice to have one that could know the whole me......

Sakura

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Guest Lizzie McTrucker

Well we tried the secret handshake thing..but really only guys shake hands, so that was out.

Then we tried a secret pin, but any imagery related to being TG was too obvious, so that was out.

Then we tried a secret sign and it worked pretty good until it was used at a baseball game and a Yankees player thought we were sending a signal to steal second, so that was out.

We tried smoke signals until we got outed by a few members of the Sioux tribe, so that was out.

We tried a special bird call until we were accosted by pigeons in Central Park, so that was out.

So we're back at square 1....

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Guest rikkicd64

I keep vowing to have a T Shirt made that says Yes! I'm trans. It is OK to talk to me!

I fully understand why we follow the rule of never outing another transperson, but sometimes I *hate* that rule.

How will we ever make friends if we are all too afraid to say anything?

Maybe we can all just agree on a secret handshake or something? A colored ribbon? A lapel button? Something?

Love

Pamela

Pamela, I love the tee shirt idea and I don't mind talking to people.

Rikki....

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Guest Maria_B

Well we tried the secret handshake thing..but really only guys shake hands, so that was out.

Then we tried a secret pin, but any imagery related to being TG was too obvious, so that was out.

Then we tried a secret sign and it worked pretty good until it was used at a baseball game and a Yankees player thought we were sending a signal to steal second, so that was out.

We tried smoke signals until we got outed by a few members of the Sioux tribe, so that was out.

We tried a special bird call until we were accosted by pigeons in Central Park, so that was out.

So we're back at square 1....

Don't forget the Fascinator Disaster. So many people suffered severe rashes.

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Guest Melissa~

The trans symbol may be a bit to overt, but the chemical chart symbol for estrogen isn't too bad, they already make jewelry based on it.

Yep I'm enough of a geek being a scientist that I tracked that down a long time ago...

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I look back when I was a teenager and one of the jobs I did was work in my mothers Dress Store. I got over embarassment real fast and found fashion facinating. My mother was a professional in woman's fashions and she knew it better than almost anyone. I knew my sizes in dresses, pants, blouses etc as well as I knew my male clothing growing up. So far, like today, I bought a nightgown in Walmart, and it fits me perfectly. That knowledge is priceless. I'm a 20 W in dresses and my new nightgown, I fit a perfect 20 W. I appreciate learning my sizes as a teen from my mother. Kathryn

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Guest Lacey Lynne

Sakura:

Well, I've found Victoria's Secret to be COMPLETELY transfriendly. I'm in there somewhat often, and they treat me very well. I've bought fragrance (Bombshell), some shirts and spent quite a bit on a bra. Had to exchange it several times. Never could get one to fit! They happily refunded my money ... this approximately 7 weeks after I bought the bra. After that, I've yet to wear a bra. I'll get around to it someday. Anyway, they've been great to me. They've invited me right into the bra-fitting rooms with other genetic girls in there, measured me, et cetera. No hassles!

Finally, honestly, I've had no problems anywhere in any store. I'm not just talking VS. I really do mean ANY store.

When I finally DO get around to buying a bra, it will most likely be from SOMA which is owned by CHICO'S. Better quality and fit than VS anyway. Just my opinion. Cindy (on this webiste) pointed this out to me. She was right, of course!

Peace & Joy :thumbsup: Lacey Lynne

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Guest MsPerseveres

How about a pin or bracelet with the TG Pride flag colours on it?

100px-Transgender_Pride_flag.svg.png

Not all of us will know it, but the advantage of the general lack of knowledge of the symbolism is that we will remain fairly well stealthed, if desired - the only people likely to know will be TG or allies.

To be honest, even if it was well known, I don't think many would notice it at all - I still don't notice the use of rainbow necklaces or other fashion accessories by the LGB community, and I even know what it means :-).

Hugs, Brenda

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How about a pin or bracelet with the TG Pride flag colours on it?

100px-Transgender_Pride_flag.svg.png

Not all of us will know it, but the advantage of the general lack of knowledge of the symbolism is that we will remain fairly well stealthed, if desired - the only people likely to know will be TG or allies.

To be honest, even if it was well known, I don't think many would notice it at all - I still don't notice the use of rainbow necklaces or other fashion accessories by the LGB community, and I even know what it means :-).

Hugs, Brenda

I have a key chain with the Trans flag on it. It's usually visible as I have a habit of hanging my keys off of a belt loop on my jeans. I have a 3'x5' Trans flag. I guess I could get a pole and start waving that around. Until I poke somebody's eye out.

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Guest Sunshine B

How about a pin or bracelet with the TG Pride flag colours on it?

100px-Transgender_Pride_flag.svg.png

Not all of us will know it, but the advantage of the general lack of knowledge of the symbolism is that we will remain fairly well stealthed, if desired - the only people likely to know will be TG or allies.

Thank you so much for sharing the TG flag. As my partner prepares for the transition process, I am working hard to learn more about TG, RLE, HRT, etc. and the TG Pride flag was something I was not aware of. My partner and I even googled the TG flag after your post and read about it on Wikipedia.

I sometimes wish there was a way for us (my partner and I) to meet other TG couples and to make TG friends. On here, nobody seems to be from MI and our city is very conservative. So, it was great to read the above posts about some sort of signal for those who are willing to talk! :D Sunshine B.

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