Totally Weirded Out

[Guest Elizabeth K]

I cannot function today - everyone feels like that once in a blue banana - sorta weirded out!

So here is my topic. Strange thoughts.

I keep hearing about binary sex system. Okay, i know sorta where that leads, all the shades between etc, but what is there really were three clear and distinct sexes? It would require participation of a male, a female and a.. a... a... hummmm... xmale say, to procreate.

Silly maybe, but stay with me.

So here we are in this world and we are gender dysphoric. So then we have not two groups of transsexuals, but six?

FTM

MTF

FTX

XTF

MTX

XTM

And instead of Bisexual? subgroups Bifm - Bifx - Bifm and possibly Trisexual?

Trisexual would also be complicated because of Trifff Triffm Triffx Trimmm Trimmf Trimmx Trixxx Triaam Trixxf Trifmx

Am I leaving anyone out?

Androgynous? Whoa - what whould that be?

Intersexed?

Cross dressers would have TWO secret closets if they 'super' cross dressed.

An how about relationships? A hethero sexual female would want a male and an xmale - "normal"

SO what is now a LESBIAN relationship? Woman-woman-woman? What would a simple woman-woman relationship be?

And so on.. fill in the possibilities

Would the Christian Wrong condem us all for not being in the image of GOD? I mean the Father, Son and Holy Spirit? And which is which?

Would a cross dresser who only cross dressed one sex a more 'morally correct' person than one who cross dressed two sexes?

And if there were four sexes?

I think the best solution is there is only one sex, whatever you feel yourself to be. That works best.

YIKES - Lizzy has lost it again!

[Guest Amelia19]

Uhhh................................

I'm confused...

[Guest Zabrak]

Uhhh................................

I'm confused...

Me too.

[Guest skyy]

this is very confusing. i want to know what X looks like, that would be awesome. but i cant even keep up with the terms we have. i dont know a lot of them as it is. but i guess X people would be bi in the traditional sense. and both straight genders would go after X. thats hardly fair and then there would be trisexuals. but would that mean straight people are all bi, in order to procreate? hmm...

i like this topic, its confusing and fun. but i guess female-female-female would still be lesbian as well as lesbian. but i guess we already have thresomes so this can already be proven.

but for the religion condemning, i'd say that anyone deviating from their birth gender, be it male, female, or X, would be seen as sinful. just my ideas.

[Guest Amelia19]

but for the religion condemning, i'd say that anyone deviating from their birth gender, be it male, female, or X, would be seen as sinful. just my ideas.

Good thing I'm not religious.

[Guest Elizabeth K]

Hee hee

Gotcha thinking! This is sort of a satire on sex terms. I mean we can't agree on two - what if there were three???

Lizzy

Amelia - Zab - think outside the box on this!

Skyy - X would be soooo sexy that m and f would swoon, jumping each other [and x] in passionate abandon!

[Guest Deeedoo]

Skyy - X would be soooo sexy that m and f would swoon, jumping each other [and x] in passionate abandon!

I would be X! I'm already very different from male and female, so why not?

[Guest Amelia19]

Amelia - Zab - think outside the box on this!

Uhh.... I think its more like, "think outside the amorphous blob of confusion."...

I still have no idea what your talking about.

and where did X come from?

I'm so lost...

[Guest karen_h]

And now we have validation, Weebles Wobble but they don't fall down

karen_h

[Guest April63]

Lizzy is losing it again.... or lost it a long time ago...

I think the better way of thinking of it is this way. There are two genders: male and female. But it is possible to characteristics of both genders, making you feel in between. You have one gender that is dominant, but you can have many characteristics of the other gender.

FTM and MTF really aren't genders either. They're conversions or transitions.

Just my two cents

April

[Guest ~Brenda~]

I think the best solution is there is only one sex, whatever you feel yourself to be. That works best.

Hi Lizzy,

You really had me going there!! MTX, XTF and such... and four sexes!! Holy cow! But I was brought back to earth by your last statement (quoted above).

I am glad you made the last statement, because my head was about to explode!!

LOL

bernie

[Guest Donna Jean]

Yeah....Lizzy is good at this sort of thing...gets you thinking and the answer isn't 42, either!

I feel that the number of genders is endless....all the way from - to + and everything in between!

She's a sweetheart that always thinks outside the box!

Don't let her night of not being able to sleep turn into yours....LOL....

I love you, Lizzy...now, quit thinking!

Donna Jean

[Guest Zabrak]

Uhh.... I think its more like, "think outside the amorphous blob of confusion."...

I still have no idea what your talking about.

and where did X come from?

I'm so lost...

I'm not alone....

[Sally]

If you want to know where the X-Men come from, - Marvel Comics!

You have to forgive Lizzy for her thoughts on trisexuals, at an early age she fell off of her tricycle and hit her head (three times)!

And for all of you who try to "think outside the amorphous blob of confusion."...

Osmosis Amoebas!

Sally

[Guest mia 1]

Their is an answer and it lies in the trinity of Christian beliefs..Christians say they believe in monotheism.yet they have three separate entities they worship..the Father(MALE)

the Son (Androgen) and the Holy Spirit ( Amorphous) and they intermingle the Holy Ghost is never identified as male nor female so their is sex#3 moving and changing to suit the needs of the other two entities.........so there are the possibilities for different sexual orientation...................endless..................and why is Jesus androgyn.........he appeared as a male but never had contact with women and hew treated women with respect and kindness that was unprecedented........A SHOT IN THE DARK

[Guest Elizabeth K]

HUMMMMM - now "I'M" trying to think all that through!

Hey - look at all this as a science fiction story where there is actually a world where three sexes are requires for procreation.

And what is a transsexual there? And do they have TRISEXUALITY?

And as to 'X' ? I didn't know what to call 'zir' so I wrote 'xmale' - hee hee

And - and - and - so it goes... We are a two sex world? We can't even agree with that... so remember how I closed it:

"I think the best solution is there is only one sex, whatever you feel yourself to be. That works best."

Sally - if I fell off a four wheeler? Quadsexual? Wow - busy person!!!

Dee Jay - slept like a baby last night (woke up every 4 hour and cried - grin)

Mia - Christian Trinity always seemed strange in a supposedly monotheic belief.

Zab - computer nerds like predictability

Bernie - sorta got it

April - KNOWS I lost it a long time ago - says so

Karen - also gets it

Amelia - you can be X if you want to

DeeeDo - is already X

Skyy - is sooo smart and is still thinking maybe the answer really is 42?

[Guest Amelia19]

Amelia - you can be X if you want to

What?

I still don't get what X is... and what is zir?

I'm really not good with these kinds of questions...

I'm better with math >.>

[Guest Elizabeth K]

What?

I still don't get what X is... and what is zir?

I'm really not good with these kinds of questions...

I'm better with math >.>

Sorry - I am a visual person - not a math wiz although I can do math blindfolded and backwards -as it was one of my dual nature inheritances for some reason (plus seven years of physics, structural engineering and such in college - dean's list!)

I mean that 'X" is a third sex - TOTALLY imaginary - NOT related to anything here at Laura's - think of it as a random number - or an unknown, undefinable quantity. This is really speculative fiction - nothing to do with mathmatics.

Zir is one of those insane attempts to degender pronouns. Look in Wikipedia.

Are you related to April? Is Zab a brother? I feel this family connection - hummmm

Lizzy was raised 'free-range', never corn feed in a pen - I don't exactly think in straight lines, more all over the place.

Just ignore me!

[Guest S. Chrissie]

I suspect my brain just went out of commission...

That might just explain why the world prefers to stick to 2 labels

[Guest Zabrak]

Zab - computer nerds like predictability

Haha, I suppose so. Because if the problem isn't predictable of the computer then I have to chalk it up to "random crappy PC errors!"

[Guest skyy]

as for the comment about people of male and female swooning over X. i think i just might collaps upon sight. all the best of both... Deeedoo, you MUST be X

i like the idea one gender. even a scale on one axis, positive and negative, isnt accurate for those that are more than one gender. its like being racially blind too, if we see one, no discrimination agenst gender, transgender, or sexuality. that would be ideal.

i have a very random theory on the holy trinity of christianity. it representing mind, body, and soul. God is the mind, controling what happens and creating events. Jesus was the body, a living flesh of God to carry out His work. and the Holy Spirit is the soul. it is what is responsible for the feelings of peace and contentment when God is embraced. it sort of is the moral radar responcible for feelings when dealing with morality. all just speculation, i in no way have studied the history or religion, but this is just what pops into my mind when i think of christianity.

and i guess to explain this topic in math terms, all of this is purly hypothetical, X doesnt exist. but imagine that what we do have, is an X and Y plane representing our genders. i know this doesnt explain ALL genders correctly as i said before, but assume it does. lizzy is saying "what if there was a Z axis". this axis also penetrates the origin, but the image is 3_D. Z is straight back and straight foward, without deviating from X=0 and y=0. now it is already confusing enough with the vast amounts of infomation that can be contained on the XY grid, but if we move into 3-D, it just gets crazy. now you have 3 points and 3 variables, and that is just nuts.

better to just let gender be X, and all we see is X. not the X she used, but X in my example. i put her new gender as Z.

if this is still way too much, dont sweat it. i love these abstract problems i've got many friends like Lizzy, so i'm used to diving hear-first into the infinite void of

and yes Lizzy, in the end, it has to be 42

[Guest Little Sara]

Sorry - I am a visual person - not a math wiz although I can do math blindfolded and backwards -as it was one of my dual nature inheritances for some reason (plus seven years of physics, structural engineering and such in college - dean's list!)

I mean that 'X" is a third sex - TOTALLY imaginary - NOT related to anything here at Laura's - think of it as a random number - or an unknown, undefinable quantity. This is really speculative fiction - nothing to do with mathmatics.

Zir is one of those insane attempts to degender pronouns. Look in Wikipedia.

Are you related to April? Is Zab a brother? I feel this family connection - hummmm

Lizzy was raised 'free-range', never corn feed in a pen - I don't exactly think in straight lines, more all over the place.

Just ignore me!

Then I am XtF as I never was or looked male pre-transition, but now I am and look female.

[Paula ult]

Wow Lizzy you got me thinking and my head spinning . For me there is really one sex, the one i know i am not what someone else says i am are or thinks i should be. I don't like labels but everything has labels these days. Your possibilities are almost limitless but you did leave a couple out, asexual and pansexual and probably others that i can't think of at the moment.

Paula.

[Sally]

Skyy you got it now! Formulas for sexuality!

Don't talk to Lizzy, she's:

Y+Y-X (cosign Z)(sign Y)(Tangent X)

X+Y-Z (Tangent Y)(sign Z)(cosing X) =42!

And you know how they are!

My head hurts now so I am not going to think about a third gender ever again!

Love ya,

Sally

[Guest April63]

That is indeed the strangest mathematical formula I have ever seen. I guess Lizzy isn't the only one...

April