Good morning All. Coffees on.

[MetaLicious]

6 hours ago, KathyLauren said:

 

I went from Keith Lawrence to Kathy (Kathleen) Lauren.  So, like you, my initials are the same, and my signature has not changed much at all.  In fact, when I changed my driver's license, the clerk thought I had signed my old name by mistake, and had me do it again.

My signature is so sloppy that the ony vaguely distinguishable letters are an M and a P.  I've tried practcing a new sig, but I keep grvitating back to M {sqiggle} P {squiggle}.

[Heather Nicole]

This is probably a good bit down the road for me still, but...

 

"Heather" is unrelated to my birth name. But I do value my birth name in large part because my mom picked the name for me, so I plan on using the feminized version of it for my middle name.

 

Unrelated to transition, I've also been wanting for a long time to change my last name to my mom's because I just identify much more with that side of the family and don't really get along with my dad. I figured I'd hold off on that change and just get it all done at once. That'll make my initials totally different.

 

Unfortunately, my mom's last name is fairly common, so a quick google revealed a bunch of people with the same first-middle-last I planned. Two of them are convicts ?. So I'm thinking of doing the two-middle name thing. What I thought was kinda cool was that the names I'm leaning toward would make my full initals HANA (japanese word for flower). lol. Not sure if that's a sign I should go for it, or if it's just far too darned much! ?

[KymmieL]

Heather, actually 2 of my grandsons have 2 middle names. Not sure if their new brother or sister (we are hoping sister) will have a 2middle names. But should find out later this week, if its a boy or a girl. I have one granddaughter and 3 grandsons so We need another girl to try evening it out.

 

Had a great time today. We had some rain at the car show. but was a good turn out for the clubs first one.

 

Here is a picture from a few years ago. but she looks about the same now.

 

Kymmie

[MirandaB]

Celebrated egg crack day by buying some socks ("M")  and underwear  ("F"). Splurged on better shampoo since I stopped shampooing every day now that I have learned more about hair as it's grown out. Did a bit of looking at some clothes but nothing caught my eye. 

 

Some more going through the pics and scrapbooks and seeing bits of my mother's face that I inherited that I hadn't really noticed before in some pics from her younger days that I hadn't seen ever or in a long while.

 

Then finally gave up on the 'first ever' toenail polish from about two months ago, was overdue for removal. 

 

 

[Willow]

Good morning 

 

it’s a nice Sunday morning here.
 

im starting to make headway in my garage.  
 

speaking of middle names, I thought long and hard about what went with Willow I liked.  Then I decided to take a historical look at my given middle name Douglas.  Turns out many years ago, Douglas was a gender neutral name.  That’s good enough for me.  I never use it anyway, just my initial.  
 

when I was pretty young I was Bill or Billy.  One day I tried writing my given name, William.  I left the I out.  Some days later my father corrected me.  But isn’t it odd that Willam has evolved into Willow.

[Elizabeth Star]

Out of the blue last night my sister called me. It had been 2 years since we talked last. She had seen a FB post I made about what happened to my chickens and the new run/coop I'm building. She was finally starting to open up to about our childhood and things that had happened. One of the things she mentioned was an incident when I was 4 or 5, she was 8 or 9. It was Halloween, we wanted to go out trick-or-treating and I didn't have a costume. She made me wear an old pink dress of hers. Apparently I cried about it. She was so upset telling about it. The thing is, she feels she planted a seed way back then. Like making me wear a dress in public when I was 5 caused some ripple effect through time making me a woman 40 years later. I need to talk to her more. I really don't want her to think she caused this. I do find it interesting how some people look for people to blame while others blame themselves. yet very few are willing accept that trans-people happen. Oh, and we did talk a lot about chickens.? #crazychickenladies

[Heather Shay]

@Elizabeth Star. It is encouraging about your sister and I know you will educate her that  trans isn't caused by anything she did. It just is. But it is a major breakthrough to be talking.

And I still feel so bad about losing your babies.

[Ivy]

2 hours ago, Elizabeth Star said:

One of the things she mentioned was an incident when I was 4 or 5, she was 8 or 9. It was Halloween, we wanted to go out trick-or-treating and I didn't have a costume. She made me wear an old pink dress of hers. Apparently I cried about it.

Ah, Halloween….  The first time wore a dress. (that I know of)  I didn't cry, but had mixed feelings.  I still remember it though.  Now it's a kinda fond memory.

[Ivy]

10 hours ago, KymmieL said:

2 of my grandsons have 2 middle names

My father had 2 middle names.

 

As for grandkids, 6 girls - 1 boy.

Personally, I have 6 daughters and 2 sons.  (One son has 3 daughters)   And now, I am a trans woman my own self.  I guess my family has a pretty strong feminine trend.

[Jamie68]

18 hours ago, Heather Nicole said:

Unfortunately, my mom's last name is fairly common, so a quick google revealed a bunch of people with the same first-middle-last I planned. Two of them are convicts ?. So I'm thinking of doing the two-middle name thing. What I thought was kinda cool was that the names I'm leaning toward would make my full initals HANA (japanese word for flower). lol. Not sure if that's a sign I should go for it, or if it's just far too darned much! ?

My wife and I lived in Tacoma when Saint Hellens blew up. At that time there were 3 families there where the husband and wife had the same first and last name. One of them liked to bounce checks. It made it a bit of a hassle for us.

[Jamie68]

3 hours ago, Elizabeth Star said:

Out of the blue last night my sister called me. It had been 2 years since we talked last. She had seen a FB post I made about what happened to my chickens and the new run/coop I'm building. She was finally starting to open up to about our childhood and things that had happened. One of the things she mentioned was an incident when I was 4 or 5, she was 8 or 9. It was Halloween, we wanted to go out trick-or-treating and I didn't have a costume. She made me wear an old pink dress of hers. Apparently I cried about it. She was so upset telling about it. The thing is, she feels she planted a seed way back then. Like making me wear a dress in public when I was 5 caused some ripple effect through time making me a woman 40 years later. I need to talk to her more. I really don't want her to think she caused this. I do find it interesting how some people look for people to blame while others blame themselves. yet very few are willing accept that trans-people happen. Oh, and we did talk a lot about chickens.? #crazychickenladies

My wife keeps trying to figure out what caused me to be Trans. She thinks that me being molested when I was young is what caused it. I think that if everyone who was molested turned Trans, most of the world would be. People always want to sort out the reasoning for things. Does it really matter why we are what we are? I think not. I think we are here to learn and experience certain things to help us grow spiritually. I feel that I am a better person now than who I was before. So who cares why !

[Ivy]

I have a quite common name as well.   When I was in AIT at Fy Sill, there were 3 other guys with the same name, and even 1 in the same battery.

I frequently get calls where someone is looking for someone else, often to collect money.  "You got the wrong person."

I never have actually found myself by googling my name.  I get tired of scrolling through pages of someone else.  I suppose there is some degree of anonymity to it, which could be a good thing.

 

4 hours ago, Jamie68 said:

Does it really matter why we are what we are? I think not.

I strongly suspect that my mother took DES while she was carrying me.  But like you say, what does it matter? We are what we are.

[KymmieL]

5 hours ago, Jamie68 said:

My wife keeps trying to figure out what caused me to be Trans. People always want to sort out the reasoning for things. Does it really matter why we are what we are? I think not. I feel that I am a better person now than who I was before. So who cares why !

I think that is my wife too.

 

Last night my wife said that at the car show yesterday. She noticed me acting like my old self.  I think she believes that if I get more involved with my cars again, I will stop this wanting to be a woman. not likely to happen. She still doesn't understand. Sorry, sweetheart you are stuck with me until you say so. get used to it.

 

Kymmie

[Jackie C.]

8 hours ago, Elizabeth Star said:

She made me wear an old pink dress of hers. Apparently I cried about it.

 

Of course you did. I mean if it was a nice BLACK dress... I mean that's more your speed.

 

Seriously though, how on earth would wearing a dress when you were five make you trans? If it worked that way, we'd be able to indoctrinate ALL the kids in the next generation. Muahahaha!

 

It's like people who think listening to certain artists turn you gay. Can you even imagine if that worked? Rainbows for EVERYBODY!

 

Hugs!

[Ivy]

2 hours ago, Jackie C. said:

If it worked that way, we'd be able to indoctrinate ALL the kids in the next generation. Muahahaha!

 

They seem to think that's what we're doing for some reason.

[Jackie C.]

1 hour ago, Jandi said:

They seem to think that's what we're doing for some reason.

 

And that's REALLY weird. I mean what would be the point?

 

My female parent went on a tear about that when I came out to her. Somehow, in her mind, there's this entire organization of therapists and surgeons working together to trick people into thinking they're trans so they get on HRT and surgically transition. I imagine the vocal coaches would have to be in on it too... along with the psychiatrists I had to convince to get my letters of recommendation. Oh, and there's endocrinologists. I mean what ELSE would an endo do if they weren't putting weak-minded middle-aged men through a second puberty for... reasons?

 

The transphobes are NOT OK.

 

She had an argument about THAT too. "I can't be transphobic, I'm not afraid of them, I just don't think they exist." They all say the same wrong-headed things. It's like they're quoting from a manual. Insanity.

 

Hugs!

[Beatriz]

I'm going through ALL of the things in this thread, right now. A book turned me trans. Lockdown turned me trans. My relationship with my parents as a kid turned me trans. And, of course, now I'm in the hands of a therapist who belongs to the sect that turns people trans. If I could look at it from a distance, it would be funny, but unfortunately I can't.

[Willow]

Good morning 

 

it’s a nice Sunday morning here.
 

im starting to make headway in my garage.  
 

speaking of middle names, I thought long and hard about what went with Willow I liked.  Then I decided to take a historical look at my given middle name Douglas.  Turns out many years ago, Douglas was a gender neutral name.  That’s good enough for me.  I never use it anyway, just my initial.  
 

when I was pretty young I was Bill or Billy.  One day I tried writing my given name, William.  I left the I out.  Some days later my father corrected me.  But isn’t it odd that Willam has evolved into Willow.

[Willow]

Question for anyone or everyone, if you needed two letters for surgery, who did you have to get write the letters?  Therapist? GP? When I looked up WPATH it said about who was going to take care of you after surgery.  That’s not something a Therapist would necessarily know.  I am confused.

 

Willow

[Jackie C.]

1 hour ago, Willow said:

Question for anyone or everyone, if you needed two letters for surgery, who did you have to get write the letters?  Therapist? GP? When I looked up WPATH it said about who was going to take care of you after surgery.  That’s not something a Therapist would necessarily know.  I am confused.

 

Willow

 

I needed the same gender therapist who wrote my letter of recommendation for HRT and a second gender therapist (she was a straight-up psychiatrist) from outside the first one's network. The idea being that they can't collaborate to push through a candidate who isn't suitable.

 

Hugs!

[Willow]

1 hour ago, Jackie C. said:

 

I needed the same gender therapist who wrote my letter of recommendation for HRT and a second gender therapist (she was a straight-up psychiatrist) from outside the first one's network. The idea being that they can't collaborate to push through a candidate who isn't suitable.

My Endocrinologist has my original therapist’s complete record in my electronic file.  He will be supplying a letter regarding my being on HRT for over a year.  He is the one that said the Urologist would need two letters for bottom surgery.  Ok that’s using the term bottom surgery very loosely.  It’s an Orchidectomy but how much more he will take I don’t know.  I have no intention of full bottom surgery in the usual sense.

[Jamie68]

1 hour ago, Willow said:

Question for anyone or everyone, if you needed two letters for surgery, who did you have to get write the letters?  Therapist? GP? When I looked up WPATH it said about who was going to take care of you after surgery.  That’s not something a Therapist would necessarily know.  I am confused.

 

Willow

My primary doctor to certify that I'm healthy enough for the surgery, my therapist, and another therapist in the same office that my therapist tells what to write.

[Jamie68]

1 hour ago, Willow said:

My Endocrinologist has my original therapist’s complete record in my electronic file.  He will be supplying a letter regarding my being on HRT for over a year.  He is the one that said the Urologist would need two letters for bottom surgery.  Ok that’s using the term bottom surgery very loosely.  It’s an Orchidectomy but how much more he will take I don’t know.  I have no intention of full bottom surgery in the usual sense.

The Orchidectomy only needs one letter from therapist and one letter from primary doctor I believe.

[Charlize]

I received letters from two therapists prior to gaining approval for an orchiectomy after living as myself forever a year.   Your gender therapist should be able to advise you Willow.  Post surgical care other than the immediate care provided by the surgeon is mainly through your GP or endrocrinologist.   

As an aside this topic is best addressed in the gender surgeries  forum where more folks may see it.

 

Hugs,

 

Charlize

[KathyLauren]

13 hours ago, Willow said:

Question for anyone or everyone, if you needed two letters for surgery, who did you have to get write the letters?  Therapist? GP? When I looked up WPATH it said about who was going to take care of you after surgery.  That’s not something a Therapist would necessarily know.  I am confused.

 

Willow

 

I got letters from my therapist and from a psychiatrist, in addition to my GP's cover letter.  Two therapists would have been fine for WPATH purposes, but the local government insurance requires one letter from a medical specialist.  Rather than getting three letters to meet that requirement, going to a shrink satisfies both WPATH and the insurance.

 

However, for an orchi, you should only need one letter.

 

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Someone mentioned in a recent post about googling one's own name.  Just for fun, I did that yesterday.  There is only one hit: the government gazette where all name changes are published.  I noticed another name on the same page as mine that was also for a trans person.  Statistics amuse me, so I went through the entire list and found 100 name changes for cis people (name gender unchanged or indeterminate) and 11 name changes for trans people (name gender obviously changed).  We are everywhere!