Uterus Transplant

[Guest CharlieRose]

Don't get me wrong, adopting is a very noble thing but I want to have a child that is a part of me.

Plus, adopting is not simple. It's not "Oh, you just fill out a form, save up a bit of money and go to the orphan-store." It's a complicated, expensive process that can take years, especially if you want a baby as opposed to an older child.

Though I imagine a uterus transplant would also be expensive and complicated.

[Guest LightNebula]

Yes, I'd definitely do it.

[Guest Robin Winter]

I would not hesitate! Not for a single instant! While I admit that I did not read through all 8 pages of this, I saw some arguments against because of the child's lack of choice in the matter?

Well, I didn't have a choice who my parents were either, and my father(translation - sperm donor) is a complete *word I can't say on the forum*, but I'm still glad I was born!!! As far as I'm concerned, a child who is loved will accept anything, and one who is raised properly will help make it ok.

It's funny, I found this topic almost immediately after posting one of my own whining about this very thing

But yeah, in a heartbeat. I would give up 1 of my 5 senses for this.

[Guest MissAmy]

I don't think I'd like to carry a child around for nine months and then push them out of small hole. Not my cup of tea, and besides even if you get a uterus, the eggs wouldn't be yours and unless you got some of your old frozen sperm, then that baby wouldn't really be yours to begin with.

[Guest Donna Jean]

I'm a woman.......

Why would I not want the ultimate experience?

But, a birth defect has prevented me from having children....

Give the opportunity?

Don't be silly...of course I would...

In the blink of an eye....a heartbeat....

*sigh*

Donna Jean

[Guest Joanna Phipps]

I don't think I'd like to carry a child around for nine months and then push them out of small hole. Not my cup of tea, and besides even if you get a uterus, the eggs wouldn't be yours and unless you got some of your old frozen sperm, then that baby wouldn't really be yours to begin with.

OK what if they could grow one from your own tissue and have it supply all the necessary hormones and cells?

[Guest Donna Jean]

OK what if they could grow one from your own tissue and have it supply all the necessary hormones and cells?

Whatever the process...I would do it!

Gimme...Gimme...Gimme....

Donna Jean

[Sally]

If I was say about 30 years younger I would really jump on that one but I am a bit of a realist and at 58 I don't really want to think about what might have been.

I think that it would be wonderful if this could be accomplished for all of the young ladies that follow but as for me, I will just have to be happy as I am - old wrinkled and a truly lovable lady.

Love ya,

Sally

[Guest Joanna Phipps]

If I was say about 30 years younger I would really jump on that one but I am a bit of a realist and at 58 I don't really want to think about what might have been.

I think that it would be wonderful if this could be accomplished for all of the young ladies that follow but as for me, I will just have to be happy as I am - old wrinkled and a truly lovable lady.

Love ya,

Sally

Momma Sally like most of the matrons here you will probably not live to see it happen, nor will I for that matter, so it is for the next generation or maybe the one after that to reap the fruits of today's research.

[Guest Donna Jean]

If I was say about 30 years younger I would really jump on that one but I am a bit of a realist and at 58 I don't really want to think about what might have been.

I think that it would be wonderful if this could be accomplished for all of the young ladies that follow but as for me, I will just have to be happy as I am - old wrinkled and a truly lovable lady.

Love ya,

Sally

Sally, Sally, Sally.......

As long as we're wishing....lets take off the age, too!

LOVE

Donna Jean

[Guest mia 1]

If I was say about 30 years younger I would really jump on that one but I am a bit of a realist and at 58 I don't really want to think about what might have been.

I think that it would be wonderful if this could be accomplished for all of the young ladies that follow but as for me, I will just have to be happy as I am - old wrinkled and a truly lovable lady.

Love ya,

Sally

I live motherhood through my children and grandchildren.

When I hold the G.K.'s I think of what it would be like to birth them and realize that my dual gender is enough to love them from both sides..

I Thank god for the gift of generations,and I am satisfied and full of love...

[Guest viv]

Reading a book by Germaine Greer (she really really really doesn't like us) where one of her slams was that no "Man made woman " has ever asked to have a uterus and bear children. My reation was - hey if it was availalbe I'd sign up to be the first! That got me thinking - first - virtually every other organ in the body can be transplanted - why not a uterus - or for that matter - the entire works? That then got me to thinking - am I the only one? - is Germaine essentially correct and there really is no interest. So A little pole - who amongts the mtf crowd would sign up for such a transplant and just for equal time - Why couldn't male testes, scrotum and penius be transplanted.

Looking forward to your comments

Hi, "Michele H" , Drop of a hat I would be pregnant if it were possible. I have a son and watched with envy the 9 months of his mothers pregnancy, I also was there at his birth

and I would have loved to have swapped places with his mother, ( i told her much later and she said she would have swapped places too ,* humor methinks*) .At 42 I will never

experience pregnancy but hold out great hope re my sisters in the future. For now being a part of this forum, the wonderful people I have met at home ( re same issues)

and my successful transition will be plenty of *goooooood* for me . I am being totally honest here ....I feel so close to you wonderful people already , I feel so at home with you .

All my heart love and kisses to all at Lauras. Viv.

[Sally]

The ignorant quote from Germaine Greer just shows how little actual research that she has ever done with transsexuals - that is one of the main causes for depression, right up there with feelings of guilt and abandonment but I guess she didn't feel it necessary to learn anything about a subject before attacking it.

Unfortunately that is the tact that most people take when spewing forth hatred.

If she only knew how many of us would welcome all that goes with a truly feminine body some even ache for what most women consider the curse of their cycle.

I stated earlier that if I were younger it would have been my goal, I have dreamed of it often and they are some of my fondest dreams, there can be no more fulfillment in anyone's life than having a baby but like so many other wonderful things in life it is not in my future.

Love ya,

Sally

[Guest Amanda Hollyann]

Where do I sign up? Of course, we as transgender women would want to have a uterus and womb implanted. Why wouldn't we? It's the last thing that keeps us from being who we want to be: a woman. To be able to feel a baby growing inside of your body, giving birth and then breastfeeding would truly be the ultimate transition.

[Guest AshleyRF]

Where do I sign up? Of course, we as transgender women would want to have a uterus and womb implanted. Why wouldn't we? It's the last thing that keeps us from being who we want to be: a woman. To be able to feel a baby growing inside of your body, giving birth and then breastfeeding would truly be the ultimate transition.

Would it? I think it is just another one of those things that we transwomen tend to glorify as the "Holy Grail" of womanhood. Sure, it would be nice to have the "ability" but I don't see it as making one any more or any less female or complete/incomplete with a transition.

[Guest NatalieRene]

Would it? I think it is just another one of those things that we transwomen tend to glorify as the "Holy Grail" of womanhood. Sure, it would be nice to have the "ability" but I don't see it as making one any more or any less female or complete/incomplete with a transition.

Yeah I agree with Ashley. It's not the uterus that makes the woman. Like any other woman that can't bare kids we just have to accept it sadly but it doesn't make us any less of a woman.

[Guest Girl Emily]

It is a shame that she did so little research into the history of MtF sex change operations that she missed the sad story of our first sister from the early 20th century.

after having a successful sex change the surgeon attempted to transplant a uterus which eventually led to her death due to rejection. She sacrificed herself to achieve the ultimate dream. Her experience and the knowledge gained from the failure has contributed to organ transplant success in the years that followed.

Huggs,

[Guest Jean Davis]

What?!

And ruin my wonderful figure.

(looks around) Where's the sign up sheet?

LUV

Jean

[Guest AshleyRF]

What?!

And ruin my wonderful figure.

(looks around) Where's the sign up sheet?

LUV

Jean

ROFL.. if only I had a "wonderful figure" to begin with.

[Guest Dana M]

I would do anything to have real and functional female reproductive organs.

[Guest Anira]

If she only knew how many of us would welcome all that goes with a truly feminine body some even ache for what most women consider the curse of their cycle.

*blushes and raises her paw* i'm one of those people that would GLADLY live with a menstruation cycle if it meant i would be able to have the right plumbing and the chance to bear a child.

i posted a thread here Medical Technology Progress That One Would Hope We Might Be Able To Benefit From that might possibly suggest one day maybe soon we could. and our counterparts in the trans communities might be able to father their own children *smiles* also would mean no more post op shots! *giggles and smiles*

[Guest TracieV3]

*blushes and raises her paw* i'm one of those people that would GLADLY live with a menstruation cycle if it meant i would be able to have the right plumbing and the chance to bear a child.

Same here. I would gladly have monthly menstruation cycles in exchange for being able to become pregnant and give birth naturally to my children.

[Guest Michele H]

Yeah, put me on the "me too" list. It makes me sad that no matter what happens in my life, I'll never have my own children. I do not feel that the ability to do so or the desire to do so is the measure of a woman however. Many biological females cannot have children, and many of those who can do not want to. Neither are diminished as women by their conditions or decisions.

On the basis of the remark made here I'd say the person who made these statements is very sadly ignorant. MtF transsexuals are not "man made women," for starters. They are what they are on the day they're born, and whatever comes of it beyond that is no one's to judge, really. She seems to be basing her analysis, if it can be called that, on a conception of gender which is akin in its own way to the belief that the earth is flat. Its day has come and gone.

Upon what basis does she make the claim that none of us have ever asked for a uterus? How does one determine what every transsexual has asked for? Besides, what use is it to ask for that which we know we cannot have?

But even having said that, I can tell you that as far as I know she is just wrong anyway. Perhaps research into the subject would have better served her.

Look into Lili Elbe. Back in the 30s she underwent five surgeries. One of them was the transplantation of ovaries. She had to have them removed because of rejection. But her fifth surgery, apparently, was an attempt to transplant a uterus. Because she wanted to have children. Complications from this last surgery eventually killed her.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lili_Elbe

I think most of us strive to end our suffering, and to that end do whatever science, the conditions of our particular lives, and our finances will allow. I am fairly certain that these restrictions do not limit our wishes, though, which can and most likely always do go well beyond them.

Some people, and it sounds like this author is one of them, seem to feel threatened when their concept of gender is questioned. I dont have much sympathy for these people. I think most of them should be incredibly grateful for the fact that they were born into bodies and lives they can be comfortable with, and if they cannot concieve of the discomfort that our condition can and does cause, the least that they could do would be to go on with their somewhat more idealic existences and leave us alone while we sort ours out. : P

This thread has been making the 'rounds and I'm sorry I missed your reply when you posted it. But I do want to thank you for your reply. A transplant, especially for you guys would be a far better option than what you currently have available for a neo phalus.

Would it be acceptable to the group to if I were to take all of these comments and use as documentation for presentation at health conferences - with the intent of getting medical research to take our needs seriously. Numbers count. All personal information that could in any way identify the individual would be redacted (removed). I am presenting at one conference in 3 weeks and am also a member of WPATH.

[Guest Michele H]

I live motherhood through my children and grandchildren.

When I hold the G.K.'s I think of what it would be like to birth them and realize that my dual gender is enough to love them from both sides..

I Thank god for the gift of generations,and I am satisfied and full of love...

This has been a really stressful week I will probably post separtely as it's a long story but just wanted to say that this weekend as I lay on a pull out bed in a room on the OBGYN floor and heard the the mewing cry of newborns as they were taken to their mothers to be fed, I cried silently. I'm 63 it won't happen for me and I cry.

[Guest Anira]

This thread has been making the 'rounds and I'm sorry I missed your reply when you posted it. But I do want to thank you for your reply. A transplant, especially for you guys would be a far better option than what you currently have available for a neo phalus.

Would it be acceptable to the group to if I were to take all of these comments and use as documentation for presentation at health conferences - with the intent of getting medical research to take our needs seriously. Numbers count. All personal information that could in any way identify the individual would be redacted (removed). I am presenting at one conference in 3 weeks and am also a member of WPATH.

personally i wouldn't mind but i know i can't speak for everyone else. are you just going to be speaking about uterine transplants or the desire for many in the trans community to have properly functioning anatomy? i.e proper plumbing for MTF and FTMs?