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1 hour ago, JustineM said:

I must say I’m really disappointed. It’s been an hour and a half since I took my first HRT dose and nothings happened. Maybe my pills are defective. ????

They work overnight. Make sure you dream about your perfect female body and then by morning-BAM!  Lol

congrats!

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2 hours ago, Bri2020 said:

They work overnight. Make sure you dream about your perfect female body and then by morning-BAM!  Lol

congrats!

 

2 hours ago, Jandi said:

Sometimes it takes a few hours to kick in.  

Oohhh! That’s how they work. Thanks.

 

Definitely been an exciting day. Sitting on cloud 9 all day. 

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3 hours ago, JustineM said:

I must say I’m really disappointed. It’s been an hour and a half since I took my first HRT dose and nothings happened. Maybe my pills are defective. ????

I've been on it for over 3 months now, and the only difference I've felt is more tender nipples.

I'm sure they started you on a low dose to see how you react. It takes time to get it dialed in to hit the target zone.

Be patient. You got started. YAY !!!

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It starts with tender nipples and moves deeper with time.  When you really want to be sure, bump into something.  You’ll know immediately it’s working.  Much like when your foot slipped off the pedal of your bicycle when you were standing to go up a hill.

 

lol

 

good for you

 

Willow

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I'm not or ever been on hrt, but I got a good size A cup man boobs. Yes they fill an A size bra.

The best I would get out of hrt is a small B cup. For me at my age, why bother. 

Now you all have to realize, I have been out there for over 21 years now, I have been to countless meetings, and meeting trans girls who had full srs, I didn't learn this stuff on the net. I seen it first hand and learned first hand.

I have met a lot of trans girls who got divorced for one reason or another, I have also met trans girls that won custody of their children after divorce. 

Which one will some of you fit into? One of those that care, or one of those that don't.  Who is real here is my question.

 

It takes a person to be a person.

LM?

 

 

 

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What did I wear today? Well this belongs here, not the other thread.

I made my Meals on Wheels with gloss nails, no earrings, that will come next week. breaking them in.

I did get the usual stares we go through when first presenting to strangers, but I'm no stranger to that.

I choose to take it slow with them and win them over.

My mission is to win our fight that we are people, caring people, not in your face people.

Not sure how others feel here, but this is my mission.

Take care, and fight the good fight, don't be the bad guy.

LM♥️

 

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9 hours ago, Willow said:

It starts with tender nipples and moves deeper with time.  When you really want to be sure, bump into something.  You’ll know immediately it’s working.  Much like when your foot slipped off the pedal of your bicycle when you were standing to go up a hill.

 

lol

 

good for you

 

Willow

Wait until someone gives you a big hug. 

That will wake you up. 

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20 hours ago, JustineM said:

Well today is the day!  Finally have my Endo appt to get on HRT.  4 hrs and 4 mins away.  Not that I've been counting the minutes for the last 2 days or anything lol.  Its also going to be a little bit of an adventure, first time wearing heels outside of the house.  4 hrs and 1 minute LOL

My standard response to one of these, quoting my endo...

 

Let’s get this party started!

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2 hours ago, Jamie68 said:

Wait until someone gives you a big hug. 

That will wake you up. 

That’s true too.  Even just brushing them with your arm, they remind you they’re there.

 

ok so much for my morning chuckle.  Good morning everyone 

 

it’s a rainy day here.  No downpours, at least not yet.  But we need the rain.  Hard to believe since in January and February we hardly had a day without rain, we are now in drought status.  
 

our listing agreement was signed yesterday our purchase agreement was supposed to be signed today but the agent pushed it back to Friday.  That’s ok I just get to keep my money a little longer.

 

I also need to get a storage unit and start moving things so it’s not an all out blitz in the end.  That would be a killer.

 

Enjoy your day.

 

Willow

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What about itchies? my nipples are starting to have that itch feeling. No tenderness or pain just an itch. I know my E is in a over whelming battle with my T. Hopefully the spiro will start slimming down the T army.

 

Having my Weekend a day earlier. Of course working on the wagon, need to install the new brake booster. Then do some work on the sub mount in the truck. Then IDK but will find something to do. by that time if may be time for a nap.

 

Kymmie

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12 hours ago, Linda Marie said:

I choose to take it slow with them and win them over.

This is a good tactic.  All my best.  

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A little off subject, but still on HRT effects.

I've noticed that my groin hair isn't gray anymore. It went back to it's original color. The hair on my head is getting slightly darker, barely noticeable.

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So my plan to bring my life into this volunteer job is to take more pictures of me in my mom clothes and go into the office and show my supervisor them and  ask her how she feels about it. I hope my next two runs will be my last as David.

Also I will let her tell the other staff about me before I walk in as Linda.

Wow this is truly a new adventure for me. I do feel it will turn out good. Also my wife and I are planning this together. 

Hugs, and love,

LM.♥️

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@Linda Marie
hope all goes well, and should, considering the look you have going there!

Good morning.
Yes I will have some coffee.

Signed lease on new apt yesterday, so it's a go.   Plan is to move a small car load each day I drive to work, which is near my new place.


South facing balcony porch.   First to move will be plants, plus new ones from garden center. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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4 hours ago, Maddee said:

 


South facing balcony porch.   First to move will be plants, plus new ones from garden center. 

Congrats! South facing in Wisconsin is ideal given the long winters. Maximize that sunshine I always say.

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Lots of emotions today. I must be cycling lol

Yesterday I had my intake consult with Johns Hopkins Transgender care center. They will eventually be doing my FFS and GAS.  Technically Kaiser will pay but they won't even initiate the process/referral until I hit the 1 year HRT mark which is in about 90 days but just getting the intake interview took 2 months. I'm trying to not be delayed by Kaiser so I initiated the process myself. The social worker there was very nice and she understands I'm trying to overcome the Kaiser delays so is working to help me with that.  I may or may not end up paying to the surgeons consult depending on when that date falls. After the LCSW talks to the team they will set me up for that consult but those appointments are currently taking 2-3 months to get.  I'm hoping that its times out with when Kaiser finally approves the referral.

So all that makes me excited.

On the flip side, the reality of how long it will take to also get to my GAS is setting in.  I will have to repeat this process again after my FFS and it may take another year to 18 months to get that one.  My dysphoria is pretty evenly split between top and bottom so this news is accentuating that dysphoria for my bottom have right now.  Especially as I'm trying to swim every day now and deal with those parts ?

Bumming me out to is the time I've put into electrolysis.  Its been 8 months and 51.5 hours of treatments so far. My person says it will be at least 200 hours. I know we've made progress but I'm so tired of it and the thought of another year or two has me in the dumps.

So basically, while I'm excited I'm making progress I've totally hit an emotional wall with all this work. 

Sorry for the long vent, I think I need more coffee to pick me up some.

Kisses

Bri

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Good morning everyone. I'm starting to get nervous about court tomorrow for name change. I don't look very feminine yet. Don't have a wig or clothes that are real feminine looking yet. Hopefully I will at least get makeup looking good. I'm going to wear dusty rose colored jeans with a black tee with red roses on it. Kind of metallic pearl dark burgundy nail polish. I'm going to feel real exposed in front of a crowd of people answering questions from the judge. Oh well, I'll just have to pull up my ladies pants and get it done. I think I'll try to find some nice sandals today.

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1 hour ago, Bri2020 said:

Lots of emotions today. I must be cycling lol

Yesterday I had my intake consult with Johns Hopkins Transgender care center. They will eventually be doing my FFS and GAS.  Technically Kaiser will pay but they won't even initiate the process/referral until I hit the 1 year HRT mark which is in about 90 days but just getting the intake interview took 2 months. I'm trying to not be delayed by Kaiser so I initiated the process myself. The social worker there was very nice and she understands I'm trying to overcome the Kaiser delays so is working to help me with that.  I may or may not end up paying to the surgeons consult depending on when that date falls. After the LCSW talks to the team they will set me up for that consult but those appointments are currently taking 2-3 months to get.  I'm hoping that its times out with when Kaiser finally approves the referral.

So all that makes me excited.

On the flip side, the reality of how long it will take to also get to my GAS is setting in.  I will have to repeat this process again after my FFS and it may take another year to 18 months to get that one.  My dysphoria is pretty evenly split between top and bottom so this news is accentuating that dysphoria for my bottom have right now.  Especially as I'm trying to swim every day now and deal with those parts ?

Bumming me out to is the time I've put into electrolysis.  Its been 8 months and 51.5 hours of treatments so far. My person says it will be at least 200 hours. I know we've made progress but I'm so tired of it and the thought of another year or two has me in the dumps.

So basically, while I'm excited I'm making progress I've totally hit an emotional wall with all this work. 

Sorry for the long vent, I think I need more coffee to pick me up some.

Kisses

Bri

Wow, I can relate to most of this. It's a long drawn out process. I don't get my first visit to the GAS surgeon till the end of July. And they have a 1-1/2 to 2 year waiting list after that. That's too soon according to my wife and too long for me. I gave up on electrolysis. Shaving now. At least I have light colored hair. The only thing that makes life bearable is knowing that I am making progress and have a plan. Hang in there Sister.

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Good morning everyone. Not much going on here. Wife and I talked a bit last night. At least we tried. She wants me spend a good 30 minutes talking with her every night but she wait until after I've taken my femme-n-ms to do it. Thanks to progesterone I don't last very long. I tried to clarify the brief conversation I had with our neighbor over the weekend. It didn't go well. She got a little upset with idea that the neighbor thinks we're lesbians. It appears someone wasn't thinking ahead and she needs some time to process this revelation. She said she's ok with the lesbian title but just wants more days a week with the old/fake person I once was. Seems like a conflict on interests to me.

 

Time for work.....

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1 hour ago, Bri2020 said:

Lots of emotions today. I must be cycling lol

Yesterday I had my intake consult with Johns Hopkins Transgender care center. They will eventually be doing my FFS and GAS.  Technically Kaiser will pay but they won't even initiate the process/referral until I hit the 1 year HRT mark which is in about 90 days but just getting the intake interview took 2 months. I'm trying to not be delayed by Kaiser so I initiated the process myself. The social worker there was very nice and she understands I'm trying to overcome the Kaiser delays so is working to help me with that.  I may or may not end up paying to the surgeons consult depending on when that date falls. After the LCSW talks to the team they will set me up for that consult but those appointments are currently taking 2-3 months to get.  I'm hoping that its times out with when Kaiser finally approves the referral.

So all that makes me excited.

On the flip side, the reality of how long it will take to also get to my GAS is setting in.  I will have to repeat this process again after my FFS and it may take another year to 18 months to get that one.  My dysphoria is pretty evenly split between top and bottom so this news is accentuating that dysphoria for my bottom have right now.  Especially as I'm trying to swim every day now and deal with those parts ?

Bumming me out to is the time I've put into electrolysis.  Its been 8 months and 51.5 hours of treatments so far. My person says it will be at least 200 hours. I know we've made progress but I'm so tired of it and the thought of another year or two has me in the dumps.

So basically, while I'm excited I'm making progress I've totally hit an emotional wall with all this work. 

Sorry for the long vent, I think I need more coffee to pick me up some.

Kisses

Bri

Thank you for sharing this. I am also with Kaiser and am 3 months on HRT. I’ve been paying out of pocket for electrolysis since November and, while I’m pleased with the results, it’s still an uphill battle with no end in sight. I’m going to discuss SRS/GRS with my therapist this month since it appears to be something I have to plan out waaaaay in advance.

 

Do you use Kaiser for Gender Therapy? I can only get one appointment per month. That was horrible at first but adequate now that I’ve settled in. 
 

Oh, and I’m thrilled with your progress.

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1 hour ago, Erica Gabriel said:

Thank you for sharing this. I am also with Kaiser and am 3 months on HRT. I’ve been paying out of pocket for electrolysis since November and, while I’m pleased with the results, it’s still an uphill battle with no end in sight. I’m going to discuss SRS/GRS with my therapist this month since it appears to be something I have to plan out waaaaay in advance.

 

Do you use Kaiser for Gender Therapy? I can only get one appointment per month. That was horrible at first but adequate now that I’ve settled in. 
 

Oh, and I’m thrilled with your progress.

We're both about at the same stage. You should think about getting name change done now. That takes some time also. I'm doing mine without a lawyer. It cost me apx. $380. It's going to take over a month after that just to get Social Security card, drivers license, bank account and about 20 other items updated. Then on to gender marker change.

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1 hour ago, Jamie68 said:

We're both about at the same stage. You should think about getting name change done now. That takes some time also. I'm doing mine without a lawyer. It cost me apx. $380. It's going to take over a month after that just to get Social Security card, drivers license, bank account and about 20 other items updated. Then on to gender marker change.

Thank you. I started that process last week. I’m in Colorado so it isn’t too difficult. Changing my Birth Certificate in Texas is another story ?

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1 hour ago, Erica Gabriel said:

Thank you. I started that process last week. I’m in Colorado so it isn’t too difficult. Changing my Birth Certificate in Texas is another story ?

That's good. I'm a navy brat born in San Juan, Puerto Rico in a naval hospital. Don't know what kind of mess it's going to be. In 2010 they cancelled all birth certificates because of security reasons an reissued new ones. My wife says I got a new one, but can't find it. I don't remember getting it. All I have is a copy of one from the early 60s when my stepmom adopted me and my 2 older sisters. It was good enough for Social Security and my pension, so things may go easy.

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      The behaviors you mention are all socialized, they’re not natal. The women all lived lives where this behavior is expected and they learned. That’s not to say every person aligns with societal “norms” or does it well, this situation was a microcosm. I think I understand where your head is at and I’m confident nothing I wrote is news to you, but look at it this way: do what brings you joy and the rest will follow. At the end it seems like you got in the way of your own joy, the others were including you be it through politeness or acceptance, and only when the Self got in the way did the interaction change.
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