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8 hours ago, ElizabethStar said:

This is the picture I posted on FB, from 3 Months before to 14 months after.

Wow, just from hormones! Your masculine features are hardly recognizable after 14 months of HRT. That's amazing!

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10 hours ago, KymmieL said:

Well it is happening again. Without saying a word. They turned off what I was watching. Turning on a video game so they could play A mario game. Didn't even have the common courtesy to ask if I even wanted to play.

 

Yet, My wife keeps bringing up things we can do this summer. I swear she either doesn't remember that I said I was leaving. or chose to not remember it. Does she think my condition is just going to go away?

 

Sorry to bring this. Maybe I'll just go to bed shortly.

 

Kymmie

 

Sounds like anger towards you for the changes in their lives and her thinking that if She ignores your changing, you will revert back to your old self. They don't realize or understand that this is a change you MUST make. I like the saying "Walk a mile in my shoes and you will understand". Unfortunately, they can't. Sounds like group therapy is what's needed to help them understand, which in turn will make it better towards you. I'm sorry you're going through this. Hope it gets better for you.

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I came out to my 24 yr old grandson who lives with us on the way home from the gym last night. It wend suprisingly well. He told me that his brother and sister and mom would take it well also. My son may be a different story. I'm slowly getting out of this closet. Feels good.

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9 hours ago, ElizabethStar said:

This is the picture I posted on FB, from 3 Months before to    14 months after. I'm just noticing the changes now.1578949073_thenandnow.jpg.2d26ebda2c8138ead6dc8ba788952e93.jpg

Thank you @ElizabethStarfor sharing your experiences, and encouraging others to be patient with the process. While both pictures are of the same person, my impression is the second one is less frightened and more confident.

 

Hugs,

 

Mindy???

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1 hour ago, Mmindy said:

Thank you @ElizabethStarfor sharing your experiences, and encouraging others to be patient with the process. While both pictures are of the same person, my impression is the second one is less frightened and more confident.

 

Hugs,

 

Mindy???

I agree. No frown or worry lines.

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Thanks everyone. I was reluctant to put that picture out there. There are already so many transformation videos out there but I think a lot of them are a little untrue (most likely they had FFS and/or BA in that first year) and set expectations too high for the rest of us. Most of them are also in 20's. So I offered myself, at age 47, to show a reality of what hormones alone can do.

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1 hour ago, Jamie68 said:

I came out to my 24 yr old grandson who lives with us on the way home from the gym last night. It wend suprisingly well. He told me that his brother and sister and mom would take it well also. My son may be a different story. I'm slowly getting out of this closet. Feels good.

@Jamie68It sounds like your grandchildren are a little bit older than mine. my grown children daughter, son-in-law, son, and daughter-in-law know I'm transitioning mtf. My grandchildren are 18, 17, 15, 9, and 4 years old. My daughter is the mother of the two youngest and ready for me to be full out and proud, her two boys are no problem. My son on the other hand while he supports me, he doesn't want me to come out to his children just yet or for me to show up with fingernail polish on.

 

Hugs,

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On 2/12/2021 at 8:01 AM, AgnesBardsie said:

II got so choked up I had to stop for a minute because I was too emotional to talk. The people at my old church disparaged these people and would never consider meeting with them and at the same time touting their own purity. It was a transformational moment, a Jesus moment, for me. 
 I had no idea how bigoted I was even after traveling this journey myself for a couple of months. It takes a while to undo all that programming.

 

Hi Agnes,

 

Many of us have experienced this. We were unknowingly being programmed even while knowing who we were on the inside.

 

 

On 2/12/2021 at 8:53 AM, Willow said:

as for messing with something God made and he doesn’t make mistakes I agree with the other comments here.  God made you transgender that has been medically proven.  There are passages in the Bible that generally support transgenders.  Look for Austin Hartke in Facebook particularly when he is speaking about Transforming.  He is transgender and went to seminary, is an Anglican priest and talks about this from the biblical point of view.  He also has a book called Transforming available on Amazon.

 

I have read the book "Transforming." It is well thought out and worth the read.

 

Hugs,

MIke

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11 hours ago, ElizabethStar said:

This is the picture I posted on FB, from 3 Months before to    14 months after. I'm just noticing the changes now.1578949073_thenandnow.jpg.2d26ebda2c8138ead6dc8ba788952e93.jpg

 

There is quite a bit of difference in your two pictures. For one thing, your skin looks much better. Your face more feminine.

 

I have been without testosterone since April 2020, and it doesn't seem like I have changed much, but I get comments all the time that it looks like I am getting younger. (I am not out to those making the comments) As you said, it is hard to see the changes in ourselves.

 

Hugs,

Mike

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Thanks Mike. I’m really happy with how much clearer my skin is. Thankfully the  decades of sun damage and picking don’t seem to show to much. 

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3 hours ago, ElizabethStar said:

Thanks everyone. I was reluctant to put that picture out there. There are already so many transformation videos out there but I think a lot of them are a little untrue (most likely they had FFS and/or BA in that first year) and set expectations too high for the rest of us. Most of them are also in 20's. So I offered myself, at age 47, to show a reality of what hormones alone can do.

It's much appreciated. Thank you.

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3 hours ago, Mmindy said:

@Jamie68It sounds like your grandchildren are a little bit older than mine. my grown children daughter, son-in-law, son, and daughter-in-law know I'm transitioning mtf. My grandchildren are 18, 17, 15, 9, and 4 years old. My daughter is the mother of the two youngest and ready for me to be full out and proud, her two boys are no problem. My son on the other hand while he supports me, he doesn't want me to come out to his children just yet or for me to show up with fingernail polish on.

 

Hugs,

Yeah, My daughter has a 24 yr old son who is really close to me. I came out to him almost a week ago. He's just fine with it. My son and his wife with son 24, son 19, and daughter 17 live with my wife and me.

If all your grandkids talk to each other, it won't be long before the younger ones know. I'm glad your family is supportive.

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6 hours ago, Confused1 said:

I have been without testosterone since April 2020, and it doesn't seem like I have changed much, but I get comments all the time that it looks like I am getting younger. (I am not out to those making the comments) As you said, it is hard to see the changes in ourselves.

Some of us seem to experience change slowly Mike. But you must be having something happen if others are noticing.  I remember a co-worker who was fond of saying "fish see water last" when talking about change.  Regardless, it is hard for us to see the change.  Have faith! 

Jani

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1 hour ago, Jani said:

"fish see water last" when talking about change.  Regardless, it is hard for us to see the change.  Have faith! 

@Jani & @Confused1 I really like that quote. Mike, I'm sure people who see you the least will notice more of a change than the the people in your everyday life. My old Fire Chief use to have a window cleaning business and the saying on the bottom of his business card said: "People look through windows, I look at them." 

 

Meanwhile back at the ranch... While I was standing in line at the drugstore a mother and daughter were chatting about Valentines Day, until I spoke to the clerk, and that's when the mother whispered to the daughter... THAT'S A MAN! This is what I had on 

 

I also found Willow's license plate  @Willow

 

Hugs, 

 

Mindy???

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2 hours ago, Jani said:

Some of us seem to experience change slowly Mike. But you must be having something happen if others are noticing.  I remember a co-worker who was fond of saying "fish see water last" when talking about change.  Regardless, it is hard for us to see the change.  Have faith! 

Jani

Hi Jani and Mindy,

 

I saw several changes right away, such as the perception of color, sense of smell, emotions, softening of my skin, and slower beard growth. My muscle mass started dropping off not long ago. I am on ADT for prostate cancer, so I don't have any testosterone or estrogen. They want me off of hormones for 2-3 years. I told my urologist I will have estrogen before that or I will have a different doctor.  Even though my estrogen level  is 15, my breasts started growing about 2 months ago, albeit slowly. Not having estrogen is what is making some of the the changes take longer

 

Hugs

Mike

 

 

 

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Upon returning from grocery shopping I found myself profusely apologizing to my wife for wearing her jacket without asking (picture in what are you wearing today? Thread). The only thing about it that really bothered her was that it's her jacket. Otherwise, we're good.

 

I had to head out again to get some lumber. This time in my water-proof zipper hoodie. My project this weekend is making a barn style sliding door. Since I was taking her car she asked if would get a much needed oil change. When I got to the place there were 2 cars outside in front of the doors, they have 3 service bays. I stopped behind one of the cars. A guy came out and told me to pull to the empty one, so I did. Apparently there was an issue with one of the cars inside so the guy came back out and asked me to shuffle places with someone who had been waiting longer. I had no problem with it and was getting ready to move when the customer I was moving for told the guy to let me go ahead. Ya know...ladies first.? While I was in the shop I had to pee (thank you Spiro) and asked to use the restroom. The mechanic came over, opened my door for me, told me to watch my step, and directed me to the ladies room.  Unfortunately, I had to pop for a new air filter. Some mice made a home in the air cleaner box. I am loving my new life.

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2 hours ago, ElizabethStar said:

Upon returning from grocery shopping I found myself profusely apologizing to my wife for wearing her jacket without asking (picture in what are you wearing today? Thread). The only thing about it that really bothered her was that it's her jacket. Otherwise, we're good.

 

I had to head out again to get some lumber. This time in my water-proof zipper hoodie. My project this weekend is making a barn style sliding door. Since I was taking her car she asked if would get a much needed oil change. When I got to the place there were 2 cars outside in front of the doors, they have 3 service bays. I stopped behind one of the cars. A guy came out and told me to pull to the empty one, so I did. Apparently there was an issue with one of the cars inside so the guy came back out and asked me to shuffle places with someone who had been waiting longer. I had no problem with it and was getting ready to move when the customer I was moving for told the guy to let me go ahead. Ya know...ladies first.? While I was in the shop I had to pee (thank you Spiro) and asked to use the restroom. The mechanic came over, opened my door for me, told me to watch my step, and directed me to the ladies room.  Unfortunately, I had to pop for a new air filter. Some mice made a home in the air cleaner box. I am loving my new life.

Oh, hell yeah!

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4 hours ago, Mmindy said:

@Jani & @Confused1 I really like that quote. Mike, I'm sure people who see you the least will notice more of a change than the the people in your everyday life. My old Fire Chief use to have a window cleaning business and the saying on the bottom of his business card said: "People look through windows, I look at them." 

 

Meanwhile back at the ranch... While I was standing in line at the drugstore a mother and daughter were chatting about Valentines Day, until I spoke to the clerk, and that's when the mother whispered to the daughter... THAT'S A MAN! This is what I had on 

 

I also found Willow's license plate  @Willow

 

Hugs, 

 

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Some people are just blind and brain dead. 

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2 hours ago, ElizabethStar said:

Hey @Mmindy, I'm so sorry to hear that happened to you.

Liz, I'm cool with it. I was presenting non bianary or androgynous. So her confusion or realization that things aren't always as you preceive. I walked out of the store somewhat happy that I rattled her perception.

 

Hugs,

 

Mindy???

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14 hours ago, Jamie68 said:

Sounds like group therapy is what's needed to help them understand, which in turn will make it better towards you. I'm sorry you're going through this. Hope it gets better for you.

My wife will not even try and find information to understand me. That is the sad part.

My son says he knows some people who transitioned. He keeps saying that they are not the same they are different inside. I think that he doesn't talk long enough with them to really find out.

 

I wonder, It was 36 yrs ago tomorrow when I asked my wife to marry me. I wonder if I asked her.  Knowing what you knows about me now. Would you still say yes? Maybe I don't want to know the answer.

 

Kymmie

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1 hour ago, KymmieL said:

My wife will not even try and find information to understand me. That is the sad part.

My son says he knows some people who transitioned. He keeps saying that they are not the same they are different inside. I think that he doesn't talk long enough with them to really find out.

 

I wonder, It was 36 yrs ago tomorrow when I asked my wife to marry me. I wonder if I asked her.  Knowing what you knows about me now. Would you still say yes? Maybe I don't want to know the answer.

 

Kymmie

Even if she said no, it probably isn't really true. She is angry and confused. Her life has changed along with yours. Her anger is keeping her from seeing that she still loves you. Hopefully she realizes it before it's too late.

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5 hours ago, ElizabethStar said:

Upon returning from grocery shopping I found myself profusely apologizing to my wife for wearing her jacket without asking (picture in what are you wearing today? Thread). The only thing about it that really bothered her was that it's her jacket.

That's one thing that never did, steal my ex wife's clothes. Mostly due to our relative size differences, it was my jackets and sweaters that got stolen. ?

 

5 hours ago, ElizabethStar said:

I....was getting ready to move when the customer I was moving for told the guy to let me go ahead. Ya know...ladies first.?

Nice, I'm so happy to hear that you got that validation today.

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